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Re:Apple's plan to “think different” about encryption opens ... by Klonoar on Thursday August 05, 2021 @05:25PM (#28080093)
I feel like this argument really doesn't add much to the discussion.

It runs only on a subset of situations, as previously noted - and I would be _shocked_ if this used more battery than half the crap running on devices today.

Do you complain that Apple runs code to find moments in photos to present to you periodically...?

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Re:Apple's plan to “think different” about encryption opens ... by aaomidi on Thursday August 05, 2021 @05:31PM (#28080178)
What is the point of running this on device? The issue here is now Apple has built and is shipping what is essentially home-phoning malware that can EASILY be required with a court order to do something entirely than what it is designed to do.

They're opening themselves to being forced by 3 letter agencies around the world to do some really fucked up shit to their users.

Apple should never have designed something that allows for fingerprinting of files & users for stuff stored on their own device.

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Re:Apple's plan to “think different” about encryption opens ... by Klonoar on Thursday August 05, 2021 @05:41PM (#28080305)
Your entire argument could be applied to iOS itself. ;P
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Re:Apple's plan to “think different” about encryption opens ... by aaomidi on Thursday August 05, 2021 @05:42PM (#28080317)
Not really, iOS didn't really have the capability of scanning and reporting files based on a database received by the FBI/other agencies.

There is a big difference when this has been implemented & deployed to devices. Fighting questionable subpoenas and stuff becomes easier when you don't have the capability.

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Re:Apple's plan to “think different” about encryption opens ... by m4rtink on Thursday August 05, 2021 @10:56PM (#28082797)
Given iOS being totally proprietary on a heavily locked down device making inspecting even the binary blobs complicated, how can anyone can be sure what it is doing ? Not to mention any such capability missing now is just one upgrade away from being added with no ability for the user to inspect and reject it.
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Re:Apple's plan to “think different” about encryption opens ... by aaomidi on Friday August 06, 2021 @12:24AM (#28083304)
No one is. Just that it's harder to develop tech like this without it leaking.

So apple is just outright saying it is.

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Re:Apple's plan to “think different” about encryption opens ... by wayneftw on Thursday August 05, 2021 @05:37PM (#28080259)
> I feel like this argument really doesn't add much to the discussion.

Oh, I guess I should have just regurgitated the Apple press release like the gp?

> It runs only on a subset of situations...

For now. But how does that fix the problem of them using my device and my network bandwidth?

> I would be _shocked_ if this used more battery than half the crap running on devices today.

You think you'll be able to see how much it uses?

> Do you complain that Apple runs code to find moments in photos to present to you periodically...?

Yes. I hate that feature, it's a waste of my resources. I'll reminisce when I choose to, I don't need some garbage bot to troll my stuff for memories. I probably already have it disabled, or at least the notifications of it.

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