I feel like this argument really doesn't add much to the discussion.

It runs only on a subset of situations, as previously noted - and I would be _shocked_ if this used more battery than half the crap running on devices today.

Do you complain that Apple runs code to find moments in photos to present to you periodically...?

What is the point of running this on device? The issue here is now Apple has built and is shipping what is essentially home-phoning malware that can EASILY be required with a court order to do something entirely than what it is designed to do.

They're opening themselves to being forced by 3 letter agencies around the world to do some really fucked up shit to their users.

Apple should never have designed something that allows for fingerprinting of files & users for stuff stored on their own device.

Your entire argument could be applied to iOS itself. ;P

Not really, iOS didn't really have the capability of scanning and reporting files based on a database received by the FBI/other agencies.

There is a big difference when this has been implemented & deployed to devices. Fighting questionable subpoenas and stuff becomes easier when you don't have the capability.

Given iOS being totally proprietary on a heavily locked down device making inspecting even the binary blobs complicated, how can anyone can be sure what it is doing ? Not to mention any such capability missing now is just one upgrade away from being added with no ability for the user to inspect and reject it.

No one is. Just that it's harder to develop tech like this without it leaking.

So apple is just outright saying it is.

> I feel like this argument really doesn't add much to the discussion.

Oh, I guess I should have just regurgitated the Apple press release like the gp?

> It runs only on a subset of situations...

For now. But how does that fix the problem of them using my device and my network bandwidth?

> I would be _shocked_ if this used more battery than half the crap running on devices today.

You think you'll be able to see how much it uses?

> Do you complain that Apple runs code to find moments in photos to present to you periodically...?

Yes. I hate that feature, it's a waste of my resources. I'll reminisce when I choose to, I don't need some garbage bot to troll my stuff for memories. I probably already have it disabled, or at least the notifications of it.

Apple already uses ‘your’ CPU, battery time and network bandwidth for its Find My / AirTag product.

You can turn it off.

Is it just me that finds the list of "Things to turn off." getting ridiculously long?

It’s not just you. It’s fucking enraging at this point. I feel like I woke up one day and gleaned a fat look at Finder or various iCloud/background service junk and just realized it is to me what fucking bloatware ware of 2010 PC’s (and presumably today) was/is.

I just want general purpose computation equipment @ reasonably modern specifications - albeit largely devoid of rootUser-privileged advertisement stacks (included libraries etc).

I mean what the fuck, is that so fucking hard? This is hellworld, given the obviously plausible counter factual where we just… don’t… do this

> I just want general purpose computation equipment @ reasonably modern specifications

So ... LineageOS (without GApps) on Pixel or OnePlus hardware? (Purchased directly from the manufacturer, not a carrier!)

I think that is intentional. When they really want people to do something they make it opt-out. When they don’t they make it opt-in.