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Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by throwaway6734 on Friday July 02, 2021 @04:52PM (#27716711)
Don't use Facebook
Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by Tenoke on Friday July 02, 2021 @05:26PM (#27717115)
YouTube among with many other places are even now censoring it so acting like it's a Facebook problem is counter-productive.
Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by api on Friday July 02, 2021 @05:39PM (#27717263)
So use Vimeo, Peertube, your own web site, ...
Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by chroem- on Friday July 02, 2021 @07:13PM (#27718000)
> your own web site

What about all those times internet infrastructure companies shut down the people who built their own website? Do you see the precedent that you're setting?

Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by belltaco on Friday July 02, 2021 @08:26PM (#27718359)
All those times? How many times? Thrice?
Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by ghoward on Saturday July 03, 2021 @03:11AM (#27719908)
Once is enough because it sets a precedent. But AWS taking down Parler is an example, as is AWS taking down America's Frontline Doctors. You may not like those websites, but if it can happen to them, it can happen to anyone.
Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by bumbada on Friday July 02, 2021 @05:10PM (#27716909)
We should develop open source decentralized alternatives to it that are easy to use.
Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by gloriousternary on Friday July 02, 2021 @05:22PM (#27717052)
Honestly I think Mastodon is already about as easy to use as possible. The real problem is the network effect, and the fact that the average person really just doesn't care enough about the benefits you get from it. What we really need is a libre, decentralized social network that's "cool" enough that non-tech people would have FOMO if they don't join. That's a much harder problem, one that I certainly won't be able to solve any time soon.
Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by SECProto on Friday July 02, 2021 @06:15PM (#27717606)
> Honestly I think Mastodon is already about as easy to use as possible. The real problem is the network effect, and the fact that the average person really just doesn't care enough about the benefits you get from it.

I care a great deal about the benefits of Mastodon! For me, the benefit is that anyone who is obsessive about conspiracy theories, racism, etc have a quarantined social space where they can converse without me having to listen.

Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by vimy on Friday July 02, 2021 @07:03PM (#27717929)
Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by jazzyjackson on Friday July 02, 2021 @10:48PM (#27718979)
Hahaha I agree with my sibling - I went on a ride with bitclout and enjoyed the camaraderie, but immediately saw how petty people were going to get over losing a buck, ironically ready to call other users scammers at the drop of a hat.

If they had a different answer to decentralization than a 2MB/minute block size or a media hosting solution that wasn’t just “allow iframes from YouTube and Vimeo” I would have had more faith, but now that I’ve cashed out I see what the sibling sees, target demographic for a influencer-speculation-exchange is very small.

Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by Nursie on Friday July 02, 2021 @08:44PM (#27718431)
Wow no. That's not going to appeal to normal people.
Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by ampdepolymerase on Friday July 02, 2021 @10:27PM (#27718892)
Mastodon powers Gab. It is as popular a decentralized technology as it can get.
Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by cvwright on Friday July 02, 2021 @07:09PM (#27717971)
None of us can solve it alone.

First we need good tech, like Mastodon.

Then we need to move our own digital "lives" onto those better platforms, and start encouraging our friends to join us.

For my part, I'm working on a new social app where everything is E2E encrypted [1], so you don't have to trust the server. The main use case is to let parents share photos of their kids in a safer way. I'm hoping this will be a big draw for people who have currently checked out of the creepy ad-tracking platforms.

[1] https://github.com/KombuchaPrivacy/circles-ios

Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by kwthrows on Friday July 02, 2021 @05:14PM (#27716949)
It won't change anything. This isn't to do with facebook per-se, you'd just get "unlinked" from whatever arbitrators or aggreggators of a decentralized alternative exist, and still be labeled a social outcast and a conspiracy theorist. It's not a technology problem, rather it's one of imbeciles.

It also exists on HN. There is a bevvy of topics we are not allowed to discuss here because dang will point to some arbitrary guidelines saying how "that's not allowed here" and ban you. It's the same shit everywhere.

Basically, the moment you step outside of the given narrative and what is and isn't allowed to be questioned, you should have zero (or less than zero, actually) expectation of having a platform where you can voice your concerns, and heaven forbid that your online persona be linked with your personal details, because if it is, you are in so much deep shit it's not even worth it for most people to utter certain words.

Re:The risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan by eloff on Friday July 02, 2021 @08:06PM (#27718282)
I once posted a question about some trans issue on multiple online communities. I forget the exact issue, and I presented both sides of the issue and then where I thought the truth may lie. I was pretty open about not knowing and wanting a discussion. It got shutdown everywhere, so I live on in ignorance because some things are apparently verboten. How does that benefit anyone?

There should be nothing so sacred as to be above debate.

The problem with this group of tech companies deciding what is true and what is not, is that even if they're right the vast majority of the time, that few percent where they were wrong and silenced that voice actually matter. Nearly every idea we now hold sacred in science was once heretical. If you silence the heretics, how can you have progress? The Catholic church used to do that, during a period we now call the dark ages. We know how this ends.

Protecting people from misinformation can't be done with censorship, only by presenting them with the truth.