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Re:Tesla Q2 2021 Vehicle Production and Deliveries by paxys on Friday July 02, 2021 @01:21PM (#27714262)
They will lower prices when they start to have excess inventory, and right now they have the opposite problem. It's hard to get even a $45K entry level Tesla in most of the country without waiting months for delivery.

> Also, if I have $42K to spend on an electric vehicle why wouldn't I buy a Ford Lightning instead of a sedan

That's a weird question. The two vehicles are in completely different categories. What would an average city dweller/commuter/soccer mom do with a truck?

The biggest problem for Ford is that their target demographic for the F-150 is the exact opposite of the environmentally-conscious urban millennial who buys electric, and so marketing is going to be a massive hurdle.

Re:Tesla Q2 2021 Vehicle Production and Deliveries by SECProto on Friday July 02, 2021 @01:30PM (#27714356)
> What would an average city dweller/commuter/soccer mom do with a truck?

Wait til you hear what the average city dweller/commuter/soccer mom drives in much of US/Canada...

Most of North America has no incentive to drive smaller vehicles besides the cost of purchase and the cost of fuel. Since electric vehicles remove the cost of fuel, that leaves only the cost of purchase ... which is the same if you get an entry level model 3 or the entry level f150 lightning. The only people that have an incentive to get a smaller vehicle is if you happen to live in one of a few urban centres where vehicle size matters (NYC, SF, Boston, a few others), you need a new vehicle and can't use car share.

Re:Tesla Q2 2021 Vehicle Production and Deliveries by Someone1234 on Friday July 02, 2021 @01:29PM (#27714340)
> The two vehicles are in completely different categories.

And yet cost the same, thus my point.

> What would an average city dweller/commuter/soccer mom do with a truck?

It is a five-seater "crew cab"-style truck, so can perform the same basic functions as a sedan and more.

If you have $42K what are the arguments for the Model 3 over the Lightning? You just want a less functional/utilitarian vehicle that costs more after Ford's federal tax incentives?

Re:Tesla Q2 2021 Vehicle Production and Deliveries by paxys on Friday July 02, 2021 @01:30PM (#27714348)
The argument is that I want a sedan, not a pickup truck, as do a million other annual car buyers.
Re:Tesla Q2 2021 Vehicle Production and Deliveries by neogodless on Friday July 02, 2021 @01:37PM (#27714430)
And... about a million trucks are sold every 4 months in the U.S.

https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2020-us-pickup-truck-sales-fig...

I think the Ford F-150 Lightning is an odd comparison to a Model 3. But you also get much more with the F-150 for the money.

Still, you can pay $20,000 and get a sedan that does most of what the Model 3 does (as far as basic transportation with seats.) The original comment stands - when will the Model 3 be price competitive with affordable, basic transportation?

Re:Tesla Q2 2021 Vehicle Production and Deliveries by Someone1234 on Friday July 02, 2021 @01:36PM (#27714412)
> as do a million other annual car buyers.

The car category that has seen year-on-year decline, with several manufacturers discontinuing completely, as consumers move to SUVs and trucks in droves. I'm not sure the data is on your side here.

If the Cybertruck and Lightning ship at around $40K let's see if the M3 can compete there. I highly doubt it based on historical US vehicle sales.

Re:Tesla Q2 2021 Vehicle Production and Deliveries by MarkSweep on Friday July 02, 2021 @04:35PM (#27716545)
> The biggest problem for Ford is that their target demographic for the F-150 is the exact opposite of the environmentally-conscious urban millennial who buys electric

I bet there will aftermarket noise and smoke generators for electric trucks.

Re:Tesla Q2 2021 Vehicle Production and Deliveries by TheParkShark on Friday July 02, 2021 @05:49PM (#27717364)
One is for sale right now and one is for sale in the future is one major reason.