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Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by headsoup on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @10:37PM (#27684293)
Linux as an ecosystem is a lot further along that many people seem to either realise or give credit for.

It most certainly works out of the box for most general tasks.

Of course there are still limitations like a lack of some software (Photoshop...) and peripherals support, but these are becoming far more uncommon. I even find with Steam's proton implementation I can install and run most Windows games without a second thought.

Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by pjmlp on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @03:49AM (#27686050)
> I even find with Steam's proton implementation I can install and run most Windows games without a second thought.

Which begs the question why bother with Linux then.

Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by teekert on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:03AM (#27686131)
You mean for devs to support Linux? That is indeed an issue of some concern, because most Linux users would prefer native Linux games. But, if you mean "bother installing Linux", then get ready for the whole privacy and control discussion :)
Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by pjmlp on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:23AM (#27686245)
OS/2 proved what happens when that route is followed.

As for privacy and control discussion, when most GNU/Linux users happen to mostly consume Electron and Web Apps, install applications via curl | sudo sh, there is hardly anything to discuss, other than cargo cult of a false sense of privacy and control.

Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by teekert on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:47AM (#27686381)
Still it's a pretty different baseline from Windows where you get ads in the start menu and a lot of telemetry is send home by default.
Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by pjmlp on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @05:36AM (#27686629)
A matter that depends on the distribution on the Linux side, and which Windows version on the other.
Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by dvdkon on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @02:16PM (#27691790)
There are many supported and distinct Linux distributions, not so for Windows versions. I wouldn't want to run Windows 2000 in 2021 because it's the last one without telemetry.
Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by pjmlp on Thursday July 01, 2021 @01:30AM (#27696513)
Indeed, distrowatch is full of them, one user distributions that hardly anyone heard of.

Pity that all that security goes away the second an Electron app or Chrome is made use of.

Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by headsoup on Monday July 05, 2021 @11:14AM (#27738805)
Which is different to Windows because...?

You're making silly arguments based on your own strawmen.

Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by anthk on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @10:01AM (#27688643)
Even the LTSC version is not safe enough.
Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by pjmlp on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @11:02AM (#27689403)
Same applies to certain Linux distributions, like Android and ChromeOS, or are they Linux for promoting desktop and non-Linux for when it isn't convenient?
Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by headsoup on Monday July 05, 2021 @11:12AM (#27738775)
Because it's free for one. Second because I have so many more options and control of what my OS is.

But really, reality is that Linux support for games is still caught in the cycle of too few customers to bother -> customers want better Linux support before moving over -> too few customers to bother...

So I can now have all the (my) benefits of Linux and enjoy gaming that otherwise I wouldn't.

Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by dTal on Thursday July 01, 2021 @06:21AM (#27697801)
How does that even follow? You'd say the same if Linux couldn't run Windows games.

Also, you used "begs the question" incorrectly. You mean "raises the question".

Also, because Windows is a steaming pile of donkey turd that shoves ads in your OS, reboots when you're trying to get work done, resets privacy and power management settings after many of its coerced updates, and has a spazzy and inconsistent UI that offers limited customization. Also closed source.