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Re:Amazon devices will soon automatically share your Interne... by clajiness on Saturday May 29, 2021 @10:40PM (#27330170)
> You mean, like AirTag/Find My?

Can you explain your comparison?

Re:Amazon devices will soon automatically share your Interne... by efitz on Saturday May 29, 2021 @10:55PM (#27330230)
Any AirTag owned by anybody can and will communicate with your iPhone over Bluetooth if you have the right features enabled (which are default). Your phone will contact Apple and tell them about the interaction. I haven’t seen protocol details, but last week a security researcher demonstrated that it is possible to use the AirTags protocol as a covert channel (with very low bandwidth).
Re:Amazon devices will soon automatically share your Interne... by sgtnoodle on Sunday May 30, 2021 @01:04AM (#27330748)
I recently read up on Bluetooth low energy. The AirTags are most likely periodically broadcasting announcement packets, and folks' iPhones are passively receiving them. It therefore seems comparable to using 802.11 SSID beacons for geo-location, except that folk intentionally bought the AirTag to be position tracked.

Just by modulating whether or not the AirTag is transmitting, it seems like you could communicate at a low data rate. You could even use hundreds or thousands of AirTag IDs to get a useful data rate. Just because you could do it, though, it seems like there are plenty of other more practical covert channels.

Re:Amazon devices will soon automatically share your Interne... by bottled_poe on Saturday May 29, 2021 @11:17PM (#27330302)
not great, but not the same as open connectivity to unknown devices.
Re:Amazon devices will soon automatically share your Interne... by detaro on Sunday May 30, 2021 @07:03AM (#27332317)
Amazon Sidewalk also is not "open connectivity".
Re:Amazon devices will soon automatically share your Interne... by SN76477 on Sunday May 30, 2021 @12:40AM (#27330649)
No, it isn’t a great comparison. But it is a similar slippery slope.