News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by TenJack on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @09:12PM (#26976330)
Just to clarify, are you saying Fortnite made as much as half the total of the e tire gaming industry on iOS?
Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by aroman on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @09:18PM (#26976374)
No. This is what I'm pointing out: the entire video game industry generated about $175 billion in revenue last year. Of that, about half (43%) came from mobile gaming.

Here is a more direct quote from statistia:

" In 2020, smartphone games generated approximately 74.9 billion U.S. dollars in annual revenue, accounting for 43 percent of the global gaming market during the measured period. Console games were ranked second with 51.2 billion U.S. dollars in global revenue."

Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by myko on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @09:44PM (#26976533)
I get the impression that money spent on mobile games is from scamming parents in children's games with dark patterns that lead young children to making in app purchases.

I think looking at the number of folks playing Fortnite on each platform and comparing that gives a better idea of where gamers prefer to play games.

Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by monocasa on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @09:49PM (#26976565)
My understanding is that whales are generally adults that have been taken in by the extremely addictive mechanics of the games. Like an old lady that dumps her pension into penny slots every day.
Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by havernator on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @11:33PM (#26977143)
Consider: visual novels, even when entirely linear, probably count as “games” for mobile sales. They’re damn popular, are often episodic or series or have DLC to drive more sales, et c. And that’s just one kind of non-“gamer” game that’s huge on mobile.
Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by sinistro25 on Thursday April 29, 2021 @09:48AM (#26981112)
Visual novels are classified as a game on every store I've seen, be it mobile, pc or console.
Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by aroman on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @11:25PM (#26977086)
If you have a source for that impression, I'd be very interested to see it.

> gamers prefer to play games

most of the money being made in mobile gaming is coming from people who would not self-identify as "gamers". If you're just considered about where "gamers" want to game, then sure. But that's excluding a massive (and the fastest-growing) segment of the video games industry.

Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by viraptor on Thursday April 29, 2021 @06:19AM (#26979347)
Gamers is a bit silly loaded term these days. Who do you exclude as not-gamers from the group that likes to play games?
Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by myko on Thursday April 29, 2021 @09:38AM (#26980990)
That's a really good point and question.

Anyone who plays a game is a gamer, that's fair - so let me clarify my assumptions:

- I think more folks play games for longer on consoles/PCs compared to mobile devices

- I think mobile games punch above their weight in sales due to dark patterns and scammy business practices

I could be wrong

Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by AlfeG on Thursday April 29, 2021 @02:03AM (#26977907)
Most of the donateshitgames are targeted for adults with money actually. There is built-in socialized competition on donates. In every guild/group/party without donating You will be outsider and a person that pull whole team down.
Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by Hammershaft on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @09:41PM (#26976521)
Good god is that depressing.

The fact that the cheap, shallow, and manipulative tripe that fills the App Store & Play Store to the brim are pulling so many players and so many dollars is genuinely depressing.

Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by astrange on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @10:52PM (#26976908)
The top games (Among Us, Roblox) aren't AAA but they aren't that. The most popular gacha games I know of (Granblue, FGO) are actually extremely over-detailed if anything.
Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by elefanten on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @09:31PM (#26976457)
OP is implying that people are playing on phones because they have them, not because it’s a good experience.

This could be especially true of a core (not casual) game like a shooter.

Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by rightbyte on Thursday April 29, 2021 @03:24AM (#26978318)
Maybe kids are doing purchases on the phone but playing on a computer, inflating the phone "market share"?
Re:Fortnite’s cash cow is Playstation, not iOS, court docume... by numpad0 on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @10:08PM (#26976681)
Are you sure those revenues are coming from competitive games like Fortnite and not from playing cards worth of App Store gift cards that gacha addicts are stacking up