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Re:India’s second wave by yalogin on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @06:29AM (#26887634)
This is what I feared the first time would be, but somehow the virus spared India. The first time around majority of the population was careful, masked up and stayed indoors. The death was super low. That caused people to get over confident, people believed that covid is not harmful in the country and they fully ignored it. Now there is an Indian variant of the virus which apparently and the infection rates and deaths are up.
Re:India’s second wave by hesarenu on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @01:06PM (#26892387)
Last peak was around october. It was expected to go higher due to reduced restrictions and coming up festivals. But instead it came down drastically. There were many articles on what caused it to go down(weather, sanitation, food etc). Now in peak summer April suddenly its going up. Its a sharp rise. Would be interested to know the cause of the sudden rise in coming months.
Re:India’s second wave by ezluckyfree on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @01:32PM (#26892790)
The new variants seem to be far more infectious, and this time make up a majority of infections.
Re:India’s second wave by rrevo on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @07:05PM (#26896508)
I was traveling to India during March (Mumbai area) and immediately concerned about the lack of masks and possibility of super spreader events like kumbh - https://rahulrevo.substack.com/p/indias-covid-conundrum. Unfortunately the worst case scenario has happened and it will now take time for the lockdowns to take into effect and the cases to reduce.

For those in India, please support healthcare workers. This is something I wrote about in another post - https://rahulrevo.substack.com/p/healthcare-services-in-indi...

Re:India’s second wave by collyw on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @06:31AM (#26887653)
Still a small fraction of what Europe has experienced.

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...

Re:India’s second wave by dtech on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @06:49AM (#26887791)
There are serious indications that India is under-reporting death count by a factor of 5-50x. Despite showing 5-10x lower death rate in your source, it was rare for European crematoriums have backlogs like in India [1]

[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/india/non-stop-cremations-cast...

Re:India’s second wave by briefcomment on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @06:25PM (#26896213)
Isn't cremation the go to in India, but second to burials in places like Europe?
Re:India’s second wave by kzrdude on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @06:41PM (#26896326)
cremation is the majority option in northern europe and UK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cremation...
Re:India’s second wave by briefcomment on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @07:12PM (#26896556)
I see, still pretty far from India’s 84% though. UK, Sweden, and Denmark are in the 70s, and everything else is lower.
Re:India’s second wave by FlyingSnake on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @12:42PM (#26892001)
Wouldn’t the opposition parties, independent media, foreign watchdogs raise the alarm if that was the case (prior to the current strain)? This would’ve been a golden opportunity to discredit the ruling government.
Re:India’s second wave by itsbits on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @01:26PM (#26892687)
Because no one have correct numbers to be frank. Media sometimes does act responsibly can be one of other reasons as well.

But as people pointing here, Indian govt surely not controlling all media outlets. They does manage couple though.

Re:India’s second wave by dartharva on Thursday April 22, 2021 @12:44AM (#26898827)
No, arrests and convictions for spreading "misinformation" and "fake news" are very brutal in India currently (at least for those who aren't on the government's side).
Re:India’s second wave by puranjay on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @04:20PM (#26894919)
The doctors in my family all openly say that the real numbers are at least bigger by a factor of 10.
Re:India’s second wave by bongoman37 on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @05:29PM (#26895681)
This is varying a lot by state according to doctors I am connected to. UP and Gujarat are definitely fudging deaths by 5-10x, Karnataka seems to be more or less in line with reported deaths.
Re:India’s second wave by navait on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @01:02PM (#26892310)
My (Indian) wife says that the media just print the good things their party does because if they printed dirt about their opponents, those people would print dirt about them.
Re:India’s second wave by zo1 on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @05:29PM (#26895673)
If the any of the "independent media" does this, they get censored for spreading "false covid information". It's painted as a conspiracy theory almost immediately.
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Re:India’s second wave by dang on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @03:23PM (#26894256)
Please don't post in the flamewar style to HN. It leads to flamewars, which are tedious and nasty.

Instead, you can add solid information in a neutral way; or it's always ok not to post.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: it looks like you've done this repeatedly in recent months. That's not cool; please don't—regardless of how right you are, or feel you are, on the underlying issues.

Re:India’s second wave by murukesh_s on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @02:29PM (#26893610)
Not a single day goes without seeing critical piece appearing in one of the listed sites:

https://www.ndtv.com https://scroll.in https://thewire.in

All of the foreign sites which are often very critical of the government like Aljazeera and BBC are also freely available. Note that scroll and wire are very left oriented and highly critical of the govt. So you need to balance the news with other medias. Even well established news papers like thehindu.com (leftist, run by leftist student leader N.Ram) and hindustantimes.com (run by opposition party) are also very popular and critical of the govt.

Re:India’s second wave by nmridul on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @01:11PM (#26892475)
Even without government control, indian media is generally hesistant to publish (or delay the publication) large scale news that could create public panic. The news on mismanagement will start to come in few months once these things settle down.

During the initial weeks of first wave , the media was more supportive of the government lockdown. Later when they realised that all was under control, media started bringing out the lockdown as a blunder.

Re:India’s second wave by efrafa on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @05:48PM (#26895876)
In Slovakia there were ice truck parked on the street, because crematoriums were full.
Re:India’s second wave by snambi on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @03:42PM (#26894447)
There is no reason to under report, because the government provides funds for everything. They may over report it, rather than under report it.
Re:India’s second wave by NicoJuicy on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @07:06PM (#26896513)
And Belgium counted every possible related death as covid related.

Overreporting 100%

Re:India’s second wave by microtherion on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @10:11PM (#26897956)
Now that excess mortality figures are available for comparison, Belgium's reporting looks in line with e.g. France or Israel:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.27.21250604v...

As in several other countries, Belgium's excess mortality was lower than the number of reported COVID deaths, but that's most likely because there was a lower number of flu deaths than usual.

Re:India’s second wave by thebruce87m on Thursday April 22, 2021 @07:46PM (#26909499)
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-...

Looks like we are now over-counting instead of undercounting as we were a few months ago. Well, maybe, since things like car crashes and suicides are down in most places so excess would be negative with lockdowns but without COVID.

Re:India’s second wave by fnord77 on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @04:44PM (#26895202)
Mask and isolation fatigue sets in.
Re:India’s second wave by baybal2 on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @08:04PM (#26896981)
Holi + Mahashivratri + Kumbh + IPL + election rallies
Re:India’s second wave by agumonkey on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @03:14PM (#26894160)
I wonder if epidemiologists have confidence taken in account in their modesls. Probably but still.. it seems such a natural social bounce after extreme fear then lower rates..