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Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by marricks on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:30AM (#26740046)
Honest to god, isn’t shooting it just any direction in space safer?!
Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by ceejayoz on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:36AM (#26740112)
> The treated water has been building up because more than 100 tons of groundwater seeps into the wrecked reactor basements every day, mixing with highly radioactive debris.

If you can put 100 tons a day into orbital escape velocity, various governments would love to talk to you.

Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by marricks on Thursday April 08, 2021 @02:12PM (#26741937)
I would rather not talk to them so I'll keep my secrets to myself :X

Seriously though, obvious and good point. Thank you for calling me out.

Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by Robotbeat on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:51AM (#26740279)
Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by amalcon on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:38AM (#26740136)
"Shooting it just any direction into space" is overwhelmingly likely to be suborbital, meaning that it will just crash back into Earth somewhere. An orbital trajectory might be safer, but it's probably not what anyone has in mind.

An escape trajectory is in practice impossible for this much mass.

Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by greptomania on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:35AM (#26740110)
Safer option would be to bury it deep underground. Much ado has been said about this approach due to long-term uncertainty, but even 100-1000 years of safe storage is better than dumping it into the ocean, or having it explode on the launchpad - at least imo. Future us can always go back and improve storage as technology brings new possibilities.
Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by varjag on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:37AM (#26740125)
You don't want it to end up on an Earth orbit (let alone a decaying one) so you'll want to give it escape velocity. That's a lot more velocity than usual. And fission byproducts are heavy..
Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by formerly_proven on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:34AM (#26740096)
> more than 1.2 million tons of treated water

Good luck with that. That's about 100 times more than the mass of all cargo send into space so far.

Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by MattGaiser on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:32AM (#26740073)
Unless the rocket explodes and spreads it everywhere.
Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by Robotbeat on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:53AM (#26740294)
Most likely would spread it into the ocean. So same thing as status quo.

(Not like it’s actually a problem FWIW.)

Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by wodenokoto on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:39AM (#26740142)
we are talking about 1.2 million tons of water.

It’s about $2-3.000 per kg to launch stuff into out of space.

So it’s about $2.400.000.000.000-3.600.000.000.000, not to talk about the environmental impact of all the rocket fuel being burned in the atmosphere.

Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by Robotbeat on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:54AM (#26740306)
But what if the cost is reduced to $10-30/kg (the latter for escape)?

https://youtu.be/C8JyvzU0CXU

Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by rangibaby on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:35AM (#26740104)
I read a book or something online by Michio Kaku where he was passionately against launching any kind of nuclear material because of the possibility of the rocket exploding before reaching space.
Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by ORioN63 on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:36AM (#26740117)
How is that in any way realistic?

It is treated water that they're thinking of releasing. Still radioactive, but not Fukushima radioactive.

Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by theandrewbailey on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:36AM (#26740116)
Yes, but you'd have to get it into space first. Rocket equation tyranny is expensive to get past.
Re:Suga says time ripe to decide fate of Fukushima No.1 water by StreamBright on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:43AM (#26740183)
Absolutely not. A Challenger like even would be catastrophic with a payload like that even if the size and weight of the payload would not make it impossible for a liftoff with current technology.

The other part is that there are safe ways of getting rid of the contaminated water on Earth.