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Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by etempleton on Monday March 22, 2021 @11:27PM (#26550728)
Discord would be crazy to not take this deal. They could go public, but they have no clear monetization path to ever reach that valuation.

For Microsoft, however, it holds incredible strategic importance to their Xbox division. If suddenly the #1 gaming voice and text chat on PC is fully cross-compatible with Xbox and Xbox services it puts Sony at a huge ecosystem disadvantage. When added to the context of Microsoft's acquisition of Bethesda and their shift in strategy to Xbox as a service it makes perfect sense.

Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by wayneftw on Monday March 22, 2021 @11:33PM (#26550778)
If they start requiring a Microsoft account to sign in like they did with Mixer then I know a bunch of people will be out, including me.

If they treat it like GitHub and let it be it's own thing then maybe I'll stick around. I doubt they're going to treat it like that though because they don't treat gamers like they do devs.

Maybe now's a good time for somebody to start building an alternative.

Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by fragileone on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @06:21AM (#26553224)
There already is an alternative which HN loves https://element.io/ https://matrix.org/
Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by etempleton on Monday March 22, 2021 @11:48PM (#26550869)
I wonder. You are right, they would probably force accounts become Microsoft accounts at some point.

I think there is also going to be higher public expectations of moderating and monitoring of what is discussed on Discord if Microsoft owns them. That may not be a headache that Microsoft even wants to deal with.

Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by shermablanca on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @12:57AM (#26551290)
There is an alternative, and it's quite good. https://www.guilded.gg/
Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by techdragon on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @03:03AM (#26551917)
The issue is that we are entering a phase where secondary services are adding value on top of discord. Things like Patreon integration for content creators, numerous service specific bots and a growing number of VOIP related integrations (for example https://craig.chat/home/) make it harder to consider alternatives as replacements.
Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by 0xFF0123 on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @06:22AM (#26553227)
They haven't messed with Mojang / Minecraft too heavily (or altered the login flow)
Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by joelellis on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @06:36AM (#26553326)
> or altered the login flow

Mojang recently announced that all mojang.com accounts would be migrated to Microsoft accounts. https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/mojang-account-move

Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by hobofan on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @03:55AM (#26552241)
Shouldn't Amazon also be bidding on Discord? Discord and Twitch are already a perfect marriage and any chance of losing that could seriously stunt Twitch.
Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by gmueckl on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @07:19AM (#26553664)
OBS kind of solved the UX issues of setting up a Twitch stream with a single host in a nice fashion. But there's no simple way to set up shows that need to mux multiple source streams from multiple hosts (e.g. interviews, discussions...). Discord could probably fill that niche with a good integration.
Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by sofixa on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @06:21AM (#26553221)
IMHO vertical integrations through acquisitions on such a scale and of such importance ( Microsoft gobbling up studios and gaming tooling such as Discors) should be investigated and stoped on anti-trust grounds, or at least MS should be forced to do interoperability. It will drastically tilt the scales towards Xbox and MS cloud gaming if there's a tight integration with Discord and many Microsoft-owned exclusives.
Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by otabdeveloper4 on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @04:53AM (#26552615)
Discord is basically Slack but slightly better.

Continuing to silo it into the gaming niche when Slack was just bought for 3 times as much makes no sense.

Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by madeofpalk on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @06:35AM (#26553322)
I know it's tempting to compare Slack and Discord, but they really are different applications for different use cases. Discord makes a terrible Slack. Slack makes an okay Discord.
Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by otabdeveloper4 on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @06:49AM (#26553421)
They're different because of branding only.

Feature-wise they're 90% interchangeable.

Microsoft can slap a white theme on Discord and rename it to something stupid like "Agile Teams" and have a ready-made Slack alternative.

Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by Macha on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @07:28AM (#26553743)
The permissions models for the two are wildly different because of the different use cases. Discord has a lot more by way of moderating and exposing different defined subsets of your server to different admin defined user groups. Slack has opt in on a per channel basis per user and unlike discord channels, any user can just create one rather than being these things admins have to set out and organise ahead of time. Slack has pinning as a "anyone can pin" default, the thinking being users pin stuff for theirs or others future reference, discord ties it to same permission as deleting other user's messages, thinking pinning is a moderator activity for making announcements.

Server admins control users on slack on the other hand. Your server admin can deactivate your entire account, DMs are tied to a server and your server admin can read them. It's a business tool, the expectation is employers have access to your business communications. The same on discord would be a massive privacy violation. But now as a business, how do you ensure that users aren't sharing passwords in chat, that your departed employee doesnt have a ton of company secrets in their dms etc

Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by madeofpalk on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @10:20AM (#26555334)
The whole channel model is radically different, with Discord having terrible defaults (for any use case imho, but definitely for companies). Discord and Slack are superficially similar, but it breaks down once you get down into the details. Discord is built around having a larger 'untrusted' community, whereas Slack is built for employees at a company who are trusted that little bit more.

You cannot leave a channel in Discord, and by default it will notify you of every message sent in every channel on the server. The best you can do is mute a channel and select 'Hide muted channels'.

Discord has far superior voice comms - in both quality and features (Voice Channels are great), and then there's the whole "roles" system.

Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by otabdeveloper4 on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @05:32AM (#26565131)
IMO you vastly overestimate the corporate use case.

In my experience in places where Slack was settled on as a corporate messaging solution the three questions asked (in order of importance) were

  * "Does it support custom animated emoji"?
  * "Does it have website and document previews"?
  * "Can I send my notifications to it"?
(It's silly but that's how it is.)
Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by madeofpalk on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @07:26AM (#26565797)
I still think Discord doesn't make sense or is very good in a corporate setting.
Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by otabdeveloper4 on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @12:33PM (#26569455)
Out of the box it doesn't, but it's 99% of the way there.
Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by kayodelycaon on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @08:23AM (#26554190)
> They're different because of branding only.

Their UX and APIs are incredibly different and their server management and moderation tools aren't even comparable between them.

The 90% interchangeable is only in feature checkboxes for the client application.

Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by madeofpalk on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @06:34AM (#26553313)
What I would do for cross-platform voice chat with Playstation. I held a small amount of hope for Discord coming to Playstation (and Xbox), but I guess that's gone now.
Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by schmorptron on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @05:42AM (#26552920)
I don't know if it's a huge money maker, but I see a lot of my friends buying their Nitro subscription service at $10 a month, so they should at least be breaking even?
Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by 1_player on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @05:56AM (#26553039)
Well, my friends and I don't, so perhaps not.

I have a small server, and I can't see the point of paying for Nitro just to have animated custom emojis. Not worth the $10/month to me.

Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by hnnameblah365 on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @08:13AM (#26554119)
There's a $5/month Classic option which still gives you all the vanity features without the server boost scheme.

If you get value from Discord, would be sad to see it go out of business, and have steady income, consider subscribing at that tier.

$5 feels right to me for cross-server emoji, control over your user hash, and the animated avatar. I never really bought into the server boost thing, myself.

Re:Microsoft in talks to buy Discord for more than $10B by banannaise on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @09:59AM (#26567268)
Only if their primary motivation is profit.