Ads in moderation are ok. An excessive interminable shower of intrusive ads are met with complete block.

I'd honestly pay for their premium 13$ per month if it wasn't Google:

Doing so would allow them to cross reference all their tracking to my personal details, or at least to a fixed id.

Exactly. The main reason I don't pay for YouTube, is that I don't want to be logged in to browse it—already getting tracked enough without that.

I pay for family premium less than 6$ (I'm not from US though)

You can sign up for Premium under a VPN and get it for cheap, even in the US. I pay $3/mo for it.

I understand YouTube (they need money, they run ads)... what I don’t understand is the companies that pay YouTube to post their ads. I mean, who on earth likes ads? Being interrupted by Company X while watching a video will make me with high probability hate company X (instead of making me buy their products). This is something i don’t really get because no one likes ads, but here you have that’s the number one strategy of (bad) companies in marketing. It’s so stupid.

I think a good part of the problem is Youtube has a lot of advertisers, and even with their popularity still a limited number of videos potential customers watch; so, they load up the ads on videos to get enough exposure for the advertisers to believe they get their money's worth.

I would pay, except youtube had these ads that are like, " hate being annoyed by ads? Pay us!"

Fuck youtube.

No, literally youtube had ads which just said things like, "does your kid hate it when youtube has commercials? Does it annoy you when they scream because of that? Pay us to remove them!"

It works be one thing to advertise a service or product, but they just put ads in to literally annoy you into paying. I'm not kidding.

I WAS a YouTube premium member until recently, but dropped it because of crap like this.

I know there's no free lunch, my comment was about the way youtube does business: it's a dick move to annoy users into paying you. How is that worth a tnstaafl reply?

I wonder if the world has passed me by when I think that I'm taking a stand against corporate greed and bullshit and everyone else happily goes along with whatever.

> I WAS a YouTube premium member until recently, but dropped it because of crap like this.

That doesn't follow.

How would you see ads if you're a YTP member? You standing up for a freeloader? Their annoyance is your annoyance?

> it's a dick move to annoy users into paying you

What else should they be doing? You an advertising genius? Maybe cut off free youtube entirely? Only a free hour a day? Show me someone else that's in the same situation, by order of magnitude, and doing a better job by your standards.

Come back to reality, mate. Server bills (repair, licensing, etc) and rent and people running the servers and dear god so much else needs to be paid. YT is providing a service, a service that ain't free.

Why don't you use an adblocker?

Frankly, I hate dealing with tech outside of work and I would have to pihole my TV.

I don’t think pihole blocks YouTube ads because they originate from their own server

There ya go, hehe, I wouldn't want to deal with it.

Try Coca Cola, the refreshing drink. I believe OP's point is not that any amount of ads is unacceptable, and I'm sure they would agree with your statement. Johnsons and Johnsons baby shampoo; no more tears.

HOWEVER. Dove cream soap, your luxury soap. I am sure, Skittles, taste the rainbow, that you will also, Adidas, impossible is nothing, agree, Nike, just do it, that if the ads themselves, Snickers, satisfaction, outnumber the actual content, Tesco, every little helps, that becomes very, Volkwagen, the people's car, frustrating to the point of, Babybel, just pop and eat, madness, is completely, Kleenex, the soft tissue, unnecessary, and just plain greedy, Durex, to our competitors customers, happy father's day.

If youtube becomes paywalled, I'll just stop using youtube. It's that simple.