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Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by JohnTHaller on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @11:35PM (#26175844)
I said the phrase "I want to cancel cable but keep internet" 23 times to a Time Warner retention specialist then their supervisor, and I may have talked to her supervisor, too. They get paid to ignore you and read back canned responses like "but what about your favorite channels?", "what about watching sports?", etc. It was the first time my girlfriend had ever seen me angry.
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by jabberwcky on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @11:57PM (#26176025)
The worst experience I had with this involved 4 customer service representatives simply hanging up (after a 30+ minute wait) after exhausting their script. I simply recorded the final call, stopping paying the bill, and sent the documentation I had to the credit reference agency when the contract went into default

At some point they sent a debt collection agency, that was much less stressful than it sounds. They called me up, "you owe $telco money", "No I don't", "oh?", "Yes, I have complete documentation of cancelling it, but their CS reps kept hanging up. Sorry, you've been had.", "Oh, this again. Sorry to have bothered you.", never heard from the debt collection agency again.

Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by baybal2 on Thursday February 18, 2021 @01:39AM (#26176710)
I had a funny episode with TD when I was closing the bank account when I was leaving Canada for good.

Very hard to close the account, even in person. My point was to make sure that there is no recurring payments left on the account.

Similar bullshit. You ask to close the account, and they keep asking you back with a square face.

In the end, a year after I left Canada, I get a call from collectors saying that they have $600+ debt+penalties+interest on my allegedly closed credit card from a service the bank added itself, and that they set my credit score to zero.

Then I found that TD subscribed me on some bullshit "credit alert" right in the month when I asked for account closure.

An immediate WTF was how in the world my credit card was still active. In than latter came out that TD does not let people really close their CC accounts, only "stop them," which only amounts to just hiding you CC from web UI, and that you need specifically say that you want to "really close" the account, which I did. So, next time, if will ever set my foot in the country, I will need to ask them to "really, really, really close my account"

Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by kenneth on Thursday February 18, 2021 @02:31AM (#26177025)
I had, surprisingly, the opposite experience when I exasperatedly wanted to cancel my BofA account. I had had it with their awful customer service and simply wanted to never do business with them again. I went into a branch expecting a difficult process. The teller had me all sorted and done in 5 minutes. I was impressed.
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by justinclift on Thursday February 18, 2021 @02:02AM (#26176853)
Errr, what's "TD"?
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by gfaure on Thursday February 18, 2021 @02:07AM (#26176879)
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by byecomputer on Thursday February 18, 2021 @03:11AM (#26177272)
They're in the US as well, both as a bank and as one of the bigger brokerage firms, TD Ameritrade
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by skinnymuch on Thursday February 18, 2021 @04:36AM (#26177815)
TD is okay in the US as a bank.

Ameritrade is owned by Charles Schwab now with TD having a minority stake in Schwab. Before that TD had a 40% stake in Ameritrade.

Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by oconnor663 on Thursday February 18, 2021 @01:39AM (#26176711)
Does this sort of thing still end up hurting your credit score though? I don't know how this actually works, but I feel like I've heard scary things about it.
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by astura on Thursday February 18, 2021 @01:59AM (#26176834)
If that invalid "debt" was still on your credit report you'd just file a dispute to have it removed.
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by HenryBemis on Thursday February 18, 2021 @02:47AM (#26177121)
When you remove an invalid debt, make sure that the bank doesn't sneak it back in. The banks "push" to the credit scoring companies on regular intervals, so although the credit scoring company-ies may remove it, unless the bank/source removes it from THEIR systems, it will be re-pushed 1-3-6 months later.

(source: Dave Ramsey's mentioned that in many of his radio shows/podcast episodes)

Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by mancerayder on Thursday February 18, 2021 @08:26AM (#26179522)
6 months seems like a long latency. I've been nervously eyeing mine due to a credit payment mishap in nov/dec (of under 2 dollars) that lead to what I expected was a 30 day late payment, but as of today it hasn't shown up on the credit reports (I check two bureaus). After reading your comment my paranoia is starting to resurface.
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by ahoy on Thursday February 18, 2021 @09:59AM (#26180545)
I don't see how the distinction matters to the individual consumer. It's interesting as an insight into how the credit scoring system is organized i guess
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by dd36 on Thursday February 18, 2021 @04:56AM (#26177970)
And then you have a slam dunk FCRA claim.
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by mchusma on Thursday February 18, 2021 @09:41AM (#26180265)
It's very difficult as a consumer to get things off your credit report. You may be able to do.it, but expect it to take months of effort. For many small debts, it's just not worth it (and I believe this is by design).
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by hbrav on Thursday February 18, 2021 @03:52PM (#26185339)
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by lostcolony on Thursday February 18, 2021 @12:44AM (#26176390)
The one downside to cable now streaming, is that the answer I used in the past "I don't have a TV" no longer shuts them up. It used to be amazing; it seemingly broke their brains. The two, three times I had to use it, the rep fell silent for a solid 3-4 seconds, then "You...don't have a TV?" "That's right" "...okay, so that's just internet then" "Yes".
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by wernercd on Thursday February 18, 2021 @01:53AM (#26176796)
We have comcast and finally removed "tv" because the pricing changed from internet+tv = internet prices... to internet + tv = more.

The answer? was a streaming box. I expect to see a monthly rental fee for the streaming box...

Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by sliken on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @11:48PM (#26175949)
Heh, comcast says the same thing. I was snookered into accepting a improved internet plan with "free HBO". Which after a few months added TV broadcast fee, and substantial other costs. I tried to move back and they literally said the are not an ISP and will not sell me an internet only plan.

I had to cancel the plan and have my "roommate" (actually my wife), start as a new customer to get an internet only plan.

Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by byecomputer on Thursday February 18, 2021 @03:26AM (#26177371)
That's so scummy (but also kind of funny, just the sheer audacity of Comcast). Honestly, I feel like that's so bald-faced and abusive on Comcast's part that the regulators might be interested in your story
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by function_seven on Thursday February 18, 2021 @12:09AM (#26176120)
I have a similar story with Spectrum/Charter.

I already had them for Internet access, but had DirecTV at the time for my TV.

They must have a quarterly quota to upsell to their subscriber base, so I'd get a call like clockwork every three months, pushing a cable TV package. Each time I'd tell them that the only reason I'm with DirecTV is because of Sunday Ticket (NFL package; exclusive to DTV). That always worked, until one day.

This sales rep responds with, "We have Redzone". I reply that it's not the same, and I really need the package I have with DTV. Then he says, "You know there are websites that stream all the games for free, right? Why not do that?"

Yeah, basically telling me to pirate the games.

... "That's a good point! Hell, I don't need any TV service at all then, right?"

Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by walrus01 on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @11:43PM (#26175908)
If you ever need to cancel comcast, time warner or similar entirely and quickly, just tell them you're going to prison. No joke, it works.
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by smachiz on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @11:44PM (#26175912)
"I'm going to prison, but I'd like to keep my internet"
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by walrus01 on Thursday February 18, 2021 @12:08AM (#26176113)
Alexa, search for very small android phones suitable for the prison wallet.
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by iSnow on Thursday February 18, 2021 @04:29AM (#26177756)
Like the Jelly Pro? :)
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by walrus01 on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @11:46PM (#26175932)
Note the part about 'entirely'
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by iammiles on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @11:46PM (#26175925)
I told AT&T I was moving out of the country. The very valiant retention specialist still offered a discount on text messages for a year.
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by dahdum on Thursday February 18, 2021 @11:51AM (#26182174)
That’s my go to for every cancellation, it’s better for the reps because they can log the reason as something unsalvageable.
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by em-bee on Thursday February 18, 2021 @12:00AM (#26176048)
what about moving to a cabin in the mountains, or actually just find a city where this ISP is not available?
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by HenryBemis on Thursday February 18, 2021 @02:25AM (#26176984)
The good old Walden story :)
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by collinmanderson on Thursday February 18, 2021 @09:37AM (#26180213)
Honestly, telling Comcast you've already switched to a new provider is the best way to cancel quickly.

> Me to retention person: Hi, I just switched to AT&T Fiber and I'm up and running, so I want to get rid of my Comcast internet.

> Rentention person: Is this the sort of sitation where you would move your Comcast internet to a new location?

> Me: No.

> Rentention person: Ohh, well in that case, I'll go ahead and cancel you're account. Ok done now.

Literally a 4 minute phone call including automated prompts.

Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by justinclift on Thursday February 18, 2021 @02:05AM (#26176869)
Hopefully that bit of info doesn't get recorded into some system somewhere, and eventually make it out to other companies databases.

If it doesn't, trying to repair that damage could be an exercise in futility. :/

Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by softgrow on Thursday February 18, 2021 @05:59AM (#26178397)
That seems really good advice. Next time I try to cancel my NYT subscription, I'll try that. I managed to do it entirely by email, but took 3 emails back and forth. Then in all the excitement of the 2020 US presidential election I subscribed again ... so the cycle will repeat.

P.S. there probably going to get a lot of people "going to prison" in the future so the scripts will include questions to out the fakers, who want to cancel without trouble.

Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by shuckles on Thursday February 18, 2021 @12:22AM (#26176221)
There is this legendary Comcast cancellation recording you can commiserate with: https://soundcloud.com/ryan-block-10/comcastic-service
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by paultopia on Thursday February 18, 2021 @09:34AM (#26180185)
LOL, cable companies are the worst. I got Mediacom to cancel my non-working service and refund my money, but only after sending a completely deranged demand letter to them[1], copying their general counsel. And you know they googled me and found that I could back my threats before they did it.

[1] https://gowder.io/pgmediacom.pdf

Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by crowf on Thursday February 18, 2021 @02:03AM (#26176856)
times like this I imagine a cancellation service. Imagine paying $X to some Indian company that calls them and whenever they offer alternatives they just respond that they are not authorized to do that. Bonus if they have a think Indian accent that makes it somewhat hard to understand.

The only disadvantage is that you would probably have to give that company your billing information for that to work.

Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by colejohnson66 on Friday February 19, 2021 @11:32PM (#26201615)
We can also imagine that Indian company you contract to also has a contract with your ISP. So one person is arguing with their coworker over canceling a plan, but they don’t know it. Like when cops go undercover on stings and end up attempting to arrest another cop on a different sting. Yes, that happens sometimes.
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by rajup on Thursday February 18, 2021 @01:03AM (#26176499)
I've used "I'm moving out of the country" with great success.
Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by danielscrubs on Thursday February 18, 2021 @01:39AM (#26176706)
There is no part of the government you can complain to, to put them on a shit list? Over here it’s called: The National Board for Consumer Disputes.

It keeps companies in line.

Re:Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take ... by paultopia on Thursday February 18, 2021 @09:36AM (#26180195)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha let me tell you about a place called America, where everyone is "free" from regulation, so long as you own a company ...