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Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by aasasd on Sunday February 14, 2021 @08:44PM (#26138135)
If you're asking about services too: Yandex Market. It's like Google Product Search that is actually successful and widely used for searching for specific products, or Amazon that doesn't swindle you left and right.

It's basically just a large catalog of products, filled by third-parties a-la Amazon now, only it didn't sell anything itself (until recently). Instead, it had detailed characteristics for a lot of products, with corresponding filters in the catalog; and good user reviews. Since Yandex is good at dealing with unstructured text, even poor data exports by vendors end up organized decently on the service. Since Yandex had millions of users on its other services, they all could leave reviews without much hassle. And since Yandex is primarily a search engine, it knows when a bogus review is spammed across the web.

Alas, it's only available in Russian since it works with Russian shops. Every time I need to look for a product on the English web, I lament that there's no service that is quite that solid. Amazon has filters, but search results usually look like simply a bit better Aliexpress. In regard to Google Product Search I don't even know anything particular—I tried to use it a couple times, and my general impression is that it... exists. Not much else.

Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by kalleboo on Sunday February 14, 2021 @10:16PM (#26138659)
Sweden has prisjakt.nu, and Japan has kakaku.com that serve the same purpose, they're both great! It's so nice to be able to drill down into any product in any product category (for kakaku this is not just tech products but contact lenses, credit cards, movers, electricity providers, car insurance, phone plans, etc) using the specs you want, and then sort by intelligently selected columns like $/TB for a harddisk.

Amazon attempts to do some product categorization but it doesn't work at all - even when they have the category you want to filter on the results are usually wrong, and the sort options are bad and marred by their ads and recommendations.

Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by jug on Monday February 15, 2021 @05:44AM (#26141397)
Prisjakt (Pricespy) is very deep in Swedish online shopping culture. I wonder if Amazon realizes what they are up to. It does make their website feel superfluous to me and more like what what I'd expect from a company of the year 2010.

What I like most about Prisjakt is that they don't try to second guess what I want given a basic search phrase. Instead, Prisjakt gives me the categories to drill down into tables. Sortable and filterable tables with product name, price, rating, and category-specific columns (like storage size and $/GB for hard drives). The filters run DEEP. If you're looking for a HDR display, you can be happy with a "HDR" filter but also opt into DisplayHDR 1000 certified displays with 120+ Hz. For the entire Sweden because every decent Swedish retail chain and store is on this website, and they have everything between solid state drives and shoes in their database. If you look for watches you have filters and columns for e.g. automatic, solar powered watches, etc.

Amazon is very, very different. They're also a front to various stores but try to make it appear like THEY are the store when they are really not. Prisjakt instead just has this razor sharp focus on making you in charge of the data and forming decisions based on that, and then when the decision is made, presents you a list of the stores with that product and their respective prices. You are in control and maybe you prefer a certain one because you're a long time user there and like them.

So Amazon becomes a "fake store front" (like Sweden's CDON) and Prisjakt is more like just a database. One optimized for usability and presentation.

Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by aasasd on Monday February 15, 2021 @08:12AM (#26142384)
Yeah, that sounds pretty much like a description of Yandex Market, plus YM also has good user reviews. I regularly learned from reviews what I might want from a product, for both functionality and quality.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by systemvoltage on Monday February 15, 2021 @04:51PM (#26147950)
> It does make their website feel superfluous to me and more like what what I'd expect from a company of the year 2010.

That is a wonderful feature, not a bug. I wish all websites would go back to 2010 era.

The usability alone of Prisjakt is incredible. It's not in-your-face like the shit that's being invented in 2020s.

Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by RasmusLarsen on Sunday February 14, 2021 @11:04PM (#26138943)
I don't know the exact list, but pricespy (prisjakt) is in a lot of countries. I have used .no/.se/.co.uk previously and they all seem to be at about the same level for their respective countries.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by universa1 on Monday February 15, 2021 @01:19AM (#26139705)
Sounds a lot like geizhals.de - price comparison site with detailed info on products, best for tech products though
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by tatami on Monday February 15, 2021 @01:38AM (#26139804)
Geizhals is amazing! I started using it for price comparison almost 15 years ago, but nowadays I use it mainly as a database to filter for products which fit my needs and are available.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by Jon_Lowtek on Monday February 15, 2021 @01:55AM (#26139909)
it's an awesome product search focused on depth not breadth. This site lets you filter headsets by connectors and dog food by taste.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by modeless on Sunday February 14, 2021 @09:21PM (#26138351)
Amazon product listings and reviews are such a cesspool these days. It's a travesty.

It's completely impossible to tell good quality stuff from useless garbage (especially since they are usually commingled in the same listing), and often it's impossible to find good quality stuff at all under the barrage of listings of the same two products with different fake brand names. The sorting options are a joke and the ratings are gamed so much they indicate nothing except how much the seller spent buying reviews.

It's amazing that Google hasn't been able to do better here.

Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by derefr on Monday February 15, 2021 @01:03AM (#26139603)
You’d think someone would have come along who just scrapes Amazon’s listings, applies their own intelligent indexing heuristics, and spits out a new search/browse page that just links through to Amazon’s regular product pages. Like CamelCamelCamel, but for dimensions other than price.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by modeless on Monday February 15, 2021 @01:29AM (#26139753)
I thought about trying to build something like this, but figured that I'd probably just get sued. Also I think matching listings to accurate product metadata would be practically impossible even if you had a good source for the metadata, and it still wouldn't fix issues like inventory commingling in the warehouse or bait and switch listings that reduce product quality over time.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by fomine3 on Monday February 15, 2021 @02:39AM (#26140149)
AFAIK in the kakaku.com case, between kakaku.com and shopping sites are partner. Sites (including Amazon.co.jp) gets customers, kakaku.com gets affiliate fee. Why this model won't work in the US?
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by calmoo on Monday February 15, 2021 @06:03PM (#26148797)
Fakespot does this (it doesn't integrate like you described but it does a decent job of spotting fakes)
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by mapster on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @02:35AM (#26151750)
I goto Reddit, HN or Nextdoor for product recommends. Amazon reviews are a joke nowadays unfortunately.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by flarg on Monday February 15, 2021 @01:52AM (#26139887)
Fakespot
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by sm4rk0 on Monday February 15, 2021 @03:03AM (#26140278)
Something like https://idealo.de/ (and .at .es .fr .it .co.uk)?
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by scns on Monday February 15, 2021 @07:41AM (#26142164)
I usually use https://geizhals.de/ since it is more tech related. Useable for people living in EU/UK/AT/DE/PL.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by benhurmarcel on Monday February 15, 2021 @07:16AM (#26142014)
Idealo is a great price comparison website, but not really for finding the right product for you. More for finding where to buy the product you've already chosen.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by karlicoss on Sunday February 14, 2021 @09:23PM (#26138366)
Can confirm -- if I need to buy some electronic device, I'd do a search/filter on yandex.market first and compare side by side. Amazon with its fuzzy searches is garbage for such shopping.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by daishi424 on Monday February 15, 2021 @02:47AM (#26140185)
Looks like they've been running A/B tests recently - reviews are hidden on some products. Or maybe they hide reviews for anonymous user. I hope it won't go further than that.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by Black101 on Sunday February 14, 2021 @10:52PM (#26138856)
Yandex reverse image search is also much better then Google's version in my experience.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by adventured on Monday February 15, 2021 @01:04AM (#26139610)
Google intentionally tamped down their reverse image search several years ago. They fundamentally changed how the product works, the results that it delivers, and did it on purpose. It's definitely inferior if you're actually looking to find copies of an image (Google is fully aware, they don't want you to be able to effectively search their image system that way).
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by pizza on Monday February 15, 2021 @02:33AM (#26140116)
Interestingly enough, Yandex did so also, a while ago, as it was being used as a scarily good open-source undercover agent identification tool https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/how-tos/2019/12/26/guid...

although I can't seem to find the followup post that actually discusses how the Yandex search quality decreased following the publication of the original article

Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by llampx on Monday February 15, 2021 @04:47AM (#26141002)
Fascinating read, thank you. I can't help but wonder what is available to big companies and governments these days in terms of technology and algorithms that we laypeople don't have access to or even dream about.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by exikyut on Monday February 15, 2021 @07:29AM (#26142088)
Ah, wow, finally found the exact article I was looking for. This thing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22492671

And then there was the genomics or DNA database or something that a couple of people were running out of their garage (well, a bit more than that) but then had to shut down after law enforcement discovered it, found it incredibly useful, and everything rapidly went sideways as "things aren't supposed to work that way"... but I'm having the hardest time finding the link for this one sadly ._.

EDIT (just within the 1hr window :): I think the second one was GEDmatch. A quick search of https://hn.algolia.com/?query=gedmatch didn't relocate what I remember reading, but I think this was it.

Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by beefield on Monday February 15, 2021 @01:19AM (#26139700)
> they don't want you to be able to effectively search their image system that way)

Why?

Re:Ask HN: What are the best websites that the Anglosphere d... by dvfjsdhgfv on Monday February 15, 2021 @03:56AM (#26140639)
This is an excellent question.