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Re:“Location-Based Pay” – Who are we to complain? by MrPowers on Sunday February 14, 2021 @10:16AM (#26133042)
Seems like you're equating superstar developers with years of experience and that hasn't been my observation. PyTorch was created by an undergrad. I've worked with senior devs that have let engineering pass them by and are now the equivalent of non-programming programmers: https://blog.codinghorror.com/the-nonprogramming-programmer/

I agree that the pool of superstar devs is tiny.

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Re:“Location-Based Pay” – Who are we to complain? by lokar on Sunday February 14, 2021 @10:21AM (#26133077)
As a data point, in big tech the Sr staff (L7 at G/FB) and higher is no more then 2% if ICs.
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Re:“Location-Based Pay” – Who are we to complain? by yks on Sunday February 14, 2021 @11:02AM (#26133424)
For anyone confused, “senior staff” is L7 and rare but “senior” is L5 and usually a majority of SWEs.
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Re:“Location-Based Pay” – Who are we to complain? by lokar on Sunday February 14, 2021 @11:09AM (#26133482)
Correct. Sr/5 is the expected terminal level for most. Both FB and G expect steady progress to that level or you get fired (if you really can't make it).
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Re:“Location-Based Pay” – Who are we to complain? by chillacy on Sunday February 14, 2021 @02:42PM (#26135504)
L4 is terminal at Google now afaik, but same concept.
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Re:“Location-Based Pay” – Who are we to complain? by lokar on Sunday February 14, 2021 @07:51PM (#26137803)
Did that change?
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Re:“Location-Based Pay” – Who are we to complain? by paulie_a on Sunday February 14, 2021 @01:14PM (#26134621)
I didnt say years of experience is equal to status

But it sure as hell takes years of experience to achieve certain status

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Re:“Location-Based Pay” – Who are we to complain? by p1esk on Sunday February 14, 2021 @05:32PM (#26136909)
It takes building and shipping an outstanding product to achieve certain status, if we’re talking about “superstar“ status. This has almost nothing to do with years of experience. I’d even say most superstar devs achieved it pretty early in their career.
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Re:“Location-Based Pay” – Who are we to complain? by paulie_a on Sunday February 14, 2021 @05:35PM (#26136936)
It absolutely does take years to achieve that. Most people that think they are superstar are really just mediocre mis with an ego.

I doubt there are many superstars under the age of 28 minimum

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