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Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by afavour on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @01:54PM (#26004977)
And then the hedge funds said they did indeed sell their short positions, but no-one believed them and the rise continues. There is no way the only losers will be hedge funds at this point, lots of retail investors will lose money.
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by Tenoke on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:09PM (#26005166)
Believe them or not, they can easily confirm whether GME still has > 100% shorts[0], which it does.

0. https://www.highshortinterest.com/

Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by dragontamer on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:13PM (#26005213)
Yeah. So a bunch of shorts closed their position at maybe $50 when the price was skyrocketing, and then reopened their position at $300 or $400 (if they timed it with the peak).

I'm not sure why people expect the short interest to change at all. If shorts thought it was worth shorting at $15, they sure as hell would be shorting at $300 or $400.

Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by fractionalhare on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:39PM (#26005539)
A lot of new shorts have also jumped in when the old ones left. The old shorts haven't necessarily bought back in, especially if they're running cautious after getting their faces ripped off.
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by celticninja on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:34PM (#26005479)
The cost of shorting the stock is a percentage of the cost of the stock on top of the stock price.
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by jeffbee on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @03:11PM (#26005954)
And that price has declined by 80-90% in the last week along with the percentage cost to borrow. It's still expensive to borrow GME but if you have an idea that a stock is going from 500 to 0 in a week or two you don't care about the cost to borrow.
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by fractionalhare on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:38PM (#26005521)
Kind of. But it really depends on your relationship and agreement with your prime broker.
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by nowherebeen on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @07:05PM (#26008865)
That is unlikely the case. Closing the short would require them to write massive losses. Their best strategy has always been wait it out. They most likely purchased a bunch of options to lock in their losses from getting worst and are waiting for the price to drop back down.
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by dannyphantom on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:15PM (#26005243)
I may be incorrect but I believe that data is somewhat outdated from the previous FINRA short interest report; it looks like the next report is due to be shared today, Tuesday Feb. 2 at 6-PM and the next on the 9th.

So, we'll potentially see if that is indeed the case either tonight or on the 9th which I believe will have the most recent data as the one this evening will already be outdated.

Linky: https://www.finra.org/filing-reporting/regulatory-filing-sys...

Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by billylindeman on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:21PM (#26005329)
The fact that there were paid Facebook and Twitter advertisements for the news stories that "mevlin exited their short" makes me think they did not
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by afavour on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:26PM (#26005387)
Feel free to invest based on that evidence, but I won't be joining you.

How often are news stories promoted in paid-for ads on social media? Do you know? If you don't then you're basing a decision on one piece of data with no context.

Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by fractionalhare on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:28PM (#26005409)
Putting that reasoning aside: do you have a link you could share that shows any of these ads?
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by gruez on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:43PM (#26005588)
1. there's nothing special about 101% shorts compared 99% shorts

2. bloomberg's (unofficial) estimates says it's below 100% https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-01/gamestop-...

3. even if it's at > 100% shorts, it tells you nothing about what price those shorts entered at. if they entered at $300 they're not breaking a sweat.

Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by dragontamer on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:47PM (#26005642)
4. Short interest only matters when a company gets bought out. At which point, the short interest is entirely rolled back to 0% and short-sellers take the ultimate loss.

Beyond that, it could go to 100%, 200%, or whatever people feel like. There's nothing special about 100% short interest at all.

Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by genericacct on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:49PM (#26005659)
That data is not updated in real time. Unless you pay big bucks short interest data is released every two weeks. https://www.nyse.com/market-data/reference/nyse-group-short-...
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by pb7 on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @03:30PM (#26006204)
If you click on "GME" on that page, it will take you to Yahoo Finance. And if you go to the "Statistics" page, you will see that the number is from January 15th. The >100% shorts number is wild disinformation at this point.
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by vkou on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:41PM (#26005570)
You have no idea if these shorts were opened at $5, $50, or $350.
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by Rebelgecko on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:41PM (#26005572)
Someone who shorted when GME was at $420.69 is gonna be laughing all the way to the bank
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by mpalczewski on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:11PM (#26005189)
from that site "Database last updated on January 29, 2021"

Typically these stats are updated slowly.

Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by chrischen on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:18PM (#26005278)
Short interest data is lagged. What is the source of this website?
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by bagacrap on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @07:38PM (#26009152)
it's exactly this kind of misunderstanding that caused this particular herd of new investors to lose out. I've noticed a lot of people making definitive statements of wsb, even though when pressed they admit they don't know squat. This is one of many reasons I like hn better in general --- people don't usually pretend to know what they're talking about.
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by blackrock on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:59PM (#26005792)
The question is: at what price point did those new shorts come in at?

Those that shorted it at the high, are minting greens right now.

Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by Grimm1 on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @03:19PM (#26006070)
The rise does not continue, the stock is trading at 98ish bucks right now. Anyone still in is very much holding a bag right now. Yes I understand trade volume is apparently low, but the momentum is likely dead and I don't see Robinhood magically opening up the playing field again. They don't have the liquidity.

WSB would need to convince people who are already burned to move to a broker like Fidelity and start it up again.

Edit: Not to mention that yes the short positions that exist now likely exist at a price point well above the original shorts.

Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by bla3 on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:51PM (#26005680)
Re:“WSB veterans know that they're making a suicide charge f... by ip26 on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @05:50PM (#26008118)
I have no horse in the race, but the press about the hedge funds closing their positions was rather suspicious, along with the silver thing right after.