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Re:Boeing charged with 737 Max fraud conspiracy and agrees t... by nyolfen on Thursday January 07, 2021 @07:26PM (#25679639)
they dlc'd the secondary/redundant AoA sensor, a critical safety feature and literally a direct cause of the crashes
Re:Boeing charged with 737 Max fraud conspiracy and agrees t... by bumby on Thursday January 07, 2021 @09:10PM (#25680586)
True. But the hazard analysis reported in the Seattle Times showed Boeing listed it a hazardous failure item. Ignoring that it should have been classified as “catastrophic” because of its ability to cause a loss of aircraft, even at the “hazardous” level their procedures made a redundant element required.

Required, not optional if the customer pays enough.

Re:Boeing charged with 737 Max fraud conspiracy and agrees t... by xxs on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:21AM (#25682420)
Actually I wonder how having two sensors is a good idea, anyways. There is no quorum of two, if one of the sensors is off, what's the actual angle of attack?

I dont understand much of redundancy of sensors, yet '3' would allow to ignore the 'bogus' reading.

Re:Boeing charged with 737 Max fraud conspiracy and agrees t... by jonplackett on Friday January 08, 2021 @05:08AM (#25683217)
It seems such a weird thing to cut corners on.

The main new feature in a plane solving a problem that they knew was potentially dangerous which is why they had to install the auto-nose-down system in the first place.

How expensive could a couple of extra sensors even be compared to a whole plane?

Re:Boeing charged with 737 Max fraud conspiracy and agrees t... by anoncake on Friday January 08, 2021 @03:50PM (#25690300)
Maybe the extra sensors added significant drag?
Re:Boeing charged with 737 Max fraud conspiracy and agrees t... by account42 on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @06:11AM (#25745282)
> Actually I wonder how having two sensors is a good idea, anyways. There is no quorum of two, if one of the sensors is off, what's the actual angle of attack?

Not knowing the angle of attack is miles better than not knowing that you don't know the angle of attack.

Re:Boeing charged with 737 Max fraud conspiracy and agrees t... by bumby on Friday January 08, 2021 @11:04AM (#25686016)
There’s usually guidelines based on the criticality of the equipment and the required reliability.
Re:Boeing charged with 737 Max fraud conspiracy and agrees t... by cutemonster on Thursday January 07, 2021 @07:56PM (#25679918)
"dlc"? What does that mean
Re:Boeing charged with 737 Max fraud conspiracy and agrees t... by 10000truths on Thursday January 07, 2021 @08:01PM (#25679985)
Downloadable content, a reference to large game studios' reputations for nickel-and-diming players on what should be core gameplay features of a video game.
Re:Boeing charged with 737 Max fraud conspiracy and agrees t... by markdown on Thursday January 07, 2021 @08:31PM (#25680262)
They made it an optional extra that you had to pay more for.

This would be fine if we're talking about carpeting on the flight deck, but the AOC sensor is a critical feature.

Re:Boeing charged with 737 Max fraud conspiracy and agrees t... by astrange on Thursday January 07, 2021 @08:26PM (#25680216)
They made it an optional feature you have to pay more for.