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Re:Uber discovered they’d been defrauded out of 2/3 of their... by mschuster91 on Sunday January 03, 2021 @06:03PM (#25626125)
> Both are propped up - actually maintained - by huge and vastly expensive brand management strategies.

In the case of Coca Cola, I agree - in the case of Apple, not at all. "Keyboardgate" aside, their products are vastly superior to the competition in build quality and life time. A typical Windows laptop is unusable after two, three years (almost all are made from plastic which breaks or looks extremely ugly rather sooner than later), and has next to no resale value while in contrast even old cheesegrater Mac Pro's fetch many hundreds of dollars today. iPhones are supplied with firmware updates far longer than most Android phones outside the flagship Pixel line are. OS X is, while it has gotten locked down a fair bit over the last years, still way better than Windows as it doesn't do tracking bullshit and start menu ads and decently better than Linux because no matter which device, stuff usually Just Works (tm) without having to fiddle for hours to get something as basic as a Bluetooth headset working.

Apple built themselves a loyal following with pure quality superiority over the competition, unlike HP or Dell who are only surviving because of enterprises who follow the "no one got fired for buying IBM" line.

And that doesn't even touch that it's Apple who's at the forefront of innovation. iPods, iPhones, iPads, Apple Watch, AirPods, now the M1 CPU - these entire device classes were created by Apple. When was the last time you heard about something truly innovative from the Windows/MS/Google side of IT? Only thing I can remember is the Google Glass.

What Apple is doing is not a "brand management strategy" per se - it is delivering actual value and innovation instead of rent-seeking. And for what it's worth Tesla are doing the same thing.

Re:Uber discovered they’d been defrauded out of 2/3 of their... by Daho0n on Sunday January 03, 2021 @09:34PM (#25627405)
>A typical Windows laptop is unusable after two, three years

This shows that you are just spreading FUD. A Windows machine is no slower after 10 years than it is the day you bought it. Sure you might have added so much software-crap that the software runs slow (which is easily fixed) but the hardware is exactly as fast after 10 years as Apple hardware is. Do you think Apple builds their hardware out of magic and unicorns?

Re:Uber discovered they’d been defrauded out of 2/3 of their... by ksec on Monday January 04, 2021 @07:54AM (#25630672)
>but the hardware is exactly as fast after 10 years as Apple hardware is.

Capacitor, DRAM, Heat Sink, etc.... There are quality difference in hardware. Although the two / three years remarks were definitely exaggerated.

Re:Uber discovered they’d been defrauded out of 2/3 of their... by Dylan16807 on Monday January 04, 2021 @02:03AM (#25628511)
> A typical Windows laptop is unusable after two, three years (almost all are made from plastic which breaks or looks extremely ugly rather sooner than later), and has next to no resale value while in contrast even old cheesegrater Mac Pro's fetch many hundreds of dollars today.

By "typical windows laptop" do you mean a cheap model where the macbook equivalent is buying nothing at all? Of course it's going to be lacking in that case.

Well-made windows laptops exist, and hold plenty of value. But you have to pay for that, no matter what brand you choose.

> tracking bullshit

Like checking signing certificates by pinging servers almost every time you run a program?

Re:Uber discovered they’d been defrauded out of 2/3 of their... by gundmc on Sunday January 03, 2021 @08:45PM (#25627134)
I've been using my windows laptop daily for 5.5 years without issue.
Re:Uber discovered they’d been defrauded out of 2/3 of their... by megameter on Sunday January 03, 2021 @07:32PM (#25626705)
Apple isn't repairable. Apple devices have high prices simply because of the brand ecosystem. Old Thinkpads use commodity parts - but they command good prices because they are repairable.

Marketing the new thing is what Apple does. It is good at it. That is not the entire spectrum of customer value.

Re:Uber discovered they’d been defrauded out of 2/3 of their... by shadowgovt on Sunday January 03, 2021 @08:28PM (#25627042)
Thinkpads are pretty much the worst form factor for a laptop that doesn't transition into "toy" space.

Source: forced to use one daily. If I could get a Mac laptop running Linux but with the input smarts of the Apple trackpad and keyboard, I would in a heartbeat.

Re:Uber discovered they’d been defrauded out of 2/3 of their... by paulie_a on Monday January 04, 2021 @04:25AM (#25629166)
I recommend a dell xps 13 developer edition

The trackpad is superior to apples and it can come preloaded with linux

Re:Uber discovered they’d been defrauded out of 2/3 of their... by Daho0n on Sunday January 03, 2021 @09:36PM (#25627411)
That shows that 1) people are different or 2) you are a fan of Apple hardware. It doesn't show that Thinkpads are bad. IMO they are light-years ahead of anything Apple sells.

Source: Me.

Re:Uber discovered they’d been defrauded out of 2/3 of their... by shadowgovt on Sunday January 03, 2021 @09:37PM (#25627415)
Out of curiosity, how do use it without bumping the trackpad while typing?
Re:Uber discovered they’d been defrauded out of 2/3 of their... by namibj on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @02:51PM (#25650110)
My trackpad is automatically muted/unresponsive while I'm typing. I suggest you figure out how to get palm rejection to activate/work on your setup, and to look if a different Thinkpad series might better fit your body (ergonomics wise).
Re:Uber discovered they’d been defrauded out of 2/3 of their... by shadowgovt on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @11:55AM (#25659496)
There is no option to enable "palm rejection" in the Settings dialog on Ubuntu under "Mouse and Trackpad", as far as I can tell.
Re:Uber discovered they’d been defrauded out of 2/3 of their... by namibj on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:26PM (#25663498)
It might not be that easy, and could require manually installing some packages.