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Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by supernova87a on Saturday January 02, 2021 @12:23PM (#25614368)
If only the cost of thermal imagers could come down and be more affordable, more people might be interested!
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by jcims on Saturday January 02, 2021 @12:29PM (#25614424)
That and the associated optics.

There’s some reason for encouragement however. I bought a Seek Pro, with 320x240 resolution, on sale for $350 earlier this year. The app is pretty terrible unfortunately and the camera physical construction is flimsy, but the imager seems to be of reasonable quality for the price point.

Couple of examples: https://imgur.com/a/ZGsOwUm

Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by ampdepolymerase on Saturday January 02, 2021 @12:32PM (#25614456)
Thermal imaging resolution is restricted by arm control laws unfortunately. There are forces at work beyond market forces.
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by jcims on Saturday January 02, 2021 @12:43PM (#25614569)
ITAR compliance assurance isn't free and certainly impacts operational costs, but the sensor I have isn't export controlled and still normally costs >$1K when you buy it from FLIR.
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by benhurmarcel on Sunday January 03, 2021 @07:54AM (#25621491)
That's only for the US though, and I'd expect such a product to come from Asia.
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by jansan on Saturday January 02, 2021 @12:35PM (#25614480)
I once rented an IR camera for roughly 100€. This is probably the best option for people who only need IR cameras on very few occasions.

Will we ever see chap(ish) IR cameras? Is there an alternative to germanium lenses on the horizon?

Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by CamperBob2 on Saturday January 02, 2021 @04:40PM (#25616799)
Zinc selenide lenses for laser cutters work very well in the spectral range covered by consumer IR cameras. They are dirt cheap on eBay, Ali Express, and other places.
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by jcims on Saturday January 02, 2021 @12:40PM (#25614545)
I believe there are some metamaterial-based approaches for the actual microbolometers that should help drive costs down. Ostensibly metamaterials could also be used for lenses but I'm not aware of anything there, we're probably stuck with germanium for the time being.
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by garaetjjte on Sunday January 03, 2021 @06:15PM (#25626209)
Seek cameras are rather noisy though. More expensive, but much less noisy and still reasonable to buy as a expensive toy would be TE-Q1 from i3system: http://nicesuper3.cafe24.com/down/TE-Q1-compressed.pdf
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by jcims on Sunday January 03, 2021 @09:18PM (#25627311)
Looks good! Any idea why they make it so difficult to buy their product?
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by garaetjjte on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @11:53AM (#25647456)
i3system is based in South Korea, and I guess shipping thermal imaging technology is PITA due to various restrictions, not profitable enough to sell to individual customers. There seems to be EU reseller (thermalexpert.eu) but they sell only to companies (likely because VAT accounting when selling exclusively to companies is much easier).
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by giantg2 on Saturday January 02, 2021 @04:44PM (#25616828)
That carboy is pretty hot.
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by jcims on Saturday January 02, 2021 @05:37PM (#25617264)
It was a pretty hot yeast: https://i.imgur.com/YGhx1kr.jpg
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by giantg2 on Saturday January 02, 2021 @06:30PM (#25617699)
Appears to be a still? Never done that. I do mead and wine.
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by jcims on Saturday January 02, 2021 @07:12PM (#25618002)
Literally just making sure we could get sanitizer if we needed it. Maybe will get into the craft at some point.
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by jstanley on Saturday January 02, 2021 @12:40PM (#25614541)
I bought one on eBay a few years ago for about £300, but it sucked so I got rid of it. It used a traditional camera to draw most of the image (itself already quite low-res), and just highlighted even-more-low-res temperature data in blue and red.
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by SoSoRoCoCo on Saturday January 02, 2021 @01:17PM (#25614922)
I was just considering buying one. Would you share your thoughts?
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by jstanley on Saturday January 02, 2021 @01:26PM (#25615018)
The resolution was too low.

I didn't really have a use in mind for it, I just thought it was interesting and thought I'd find uses for it after I owned it, but the resolution was too low to be able to do anything useful.

Here's the only picture I have of it working: https://img.jes.xxx/1047

As you can see, you can't see anything.

Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by SoSoRoCoCo on Saturday January 02, 2021 @02:09PM (#25615434)
> As you can see, you can't see anything.

Thank you.

I wanted to get one to (a) find creatures outside at night while camping, and (b) fix my house energy leaks. But that rez seems awfully low. So amazed at the OP for doing such an amazing job stitching images!

Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by dheera on Saturday January 02, 2021 @03:14PM (#25616046)
I've had decent luck finding and seeing creatures with the Seek RevealPro I used, although there may be better ones out by now.

I even used it to try to find a friend's lost cat once. I didn't succeed in finding the cat with it, but I did end up finding a few other stray cats and racoons. (For anyone wondering, the pet cat was found later and was taken to a shelter by some good samaritan.)

Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by freeone3000 on Sunday January 03, 2021 @12:40AM (#25619790)
For (b) even a quite low res thermal camera can be useful. Compared to a laser thermometer, you have a much wider fov, and you can always get closer.
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by SoSoRoCoCo on Saturday January 02, 2021 @01:12PM (#25614865)
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by gandalfian on Saturday January 02, 2021 @12:32PM (#25614448)
Yes I do covet them. Getting cheaper but still fairly low resolution. Keep hoping for a tipping point like digital cameras where cheap decent sensors will suddenly be everywhere. Not yet though.
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by soared on Saturday January 02, 2021 @01:04PM (#25614789)
I'd imagine demand for thermal imaging has skyrocketed due to covid, so its possible the tech will get better and cheaper.
Re:Show HN: I shot high-res stitched panoramas in Iceland us... by CyberDildonics on Saturday January 02, 2021 @07:33PM (#25618143)
I don't think cheap cameras are sensitive enough and you don't need an entire image that is better for seeing relative heat, you just need a single accurate reading. Those thermometers are only $20 and are being cranked out in bulk.