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Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by kostarelo on Sunday December 27, 2020 @03:46PM (#25554098)
On every retrospective session we do, every other week, there is an additional column called “stars” or “heros” and we add a note each there giving praises to someone else for something they did those two weeks. We then read them all out followed by a round of applause for each one of them. It brings great positivity to the team.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by yiyus on Sunday December 27, 2020 @04:02PM (#25554235)
> We then read them all out followed by a round of applause for each one of them

That may be good for team building and make some people feel better but, personally, I would find that situation very uncomfortable.

Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by cjmcqueen on Sunday December 27, 2020 @05:29PM (#25554828)
Gratitude is a skill anyone can learn. Accepting compliments is also a skill that anyone can learn. But, both of them take practice. It's okay to feel uncomfortable with something, that doesn't necessarily mean that it's wrong. Sometimes we're just uncomfortable with something because it's not something we've had a lot of experience with.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by yiyus on Sunday December 27, 2020 @05:44PM (#25554919)
Expressing gratitude and accepting compliments are nice skills to have, but making of it a public show is just bad taste, IMO.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by cacois on Sunday December 27, 2020 @06:13PM (#25555070)
Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but "praise in public, punish in private" is a saying for a reason. Praise is more effective in public, and praising one person on the team publicly benefits the entire team, not just that person.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by cutemonster on Sunday December 27, 2020 @06:26PM (#25555130)
This is more "praise in public, when the boss says so, because the boss says so", though?
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by solarengineer on Sunday December 27, 2020 @08:54PM (#25556002)
One can praise without the boss having us do so.

Really, it’s about noticing and acknowledging good work or behaviour.

Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by adar on Sunday December 27, 2020 @07:23PM (#25555470)
Nothing's stopping you from praising people at other times, is it?
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by warent on Sunday December 27, 2020 @08:16PM (#25555817)
Nobody is arguing that. The debate is around whether manufactured public praise is tasteless
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by memling on Monday December 28, 2020 @11:15AM (#25560357)
> Nobody is arguing that. The debate is around whether manufactured public praise is tasteless

I suppose it can feel that way, but on the other hand forcing oneself to find and appreciate others efforts and good qualities—even if there are perceptibly few of them—can be a good exercise, especially for those of us who are naturally quite critical. While I'd argue that it's a good virtue and intrinsically valuable, the habit is also practically beneficial: people perform better when they're appreciated and recognized; one's ability to form and work with teams is noticeably easier; it's easier to adjust performance and expectations; et c.

People often put the cart before the horse when talking about stuff like this. Manufacturing gratitude is doesn't make it less genuine or fundamentally less good.

Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by memling on Monday December 28, 2020 @11:08AM (#25560289)
> Expressing gratitude and accepting compliments are nice skills to have, but making of it a public show is just bad taste, IMO.

I wonder if this is a culture or generational difference. I've found my employer's incentives / gestures a bit lackluster compared to simple gratitude. I like working on a team where the members are publicly thankful for their teammates' efforts. Shrute Bucks stink.

Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by tomc1985 on Sunday December 27, 2020 @07:32PM (#25555529)
Gratitude is great, but forced gratitude is worthless. At what point do things become a circlejerk?
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by eyelidlessness on Sunday December 27, 2020 @07:57PM (#25555709)
Formal doesn’t mean forced. Milestone events and traditions that involve greater than ordinary recognition is a part of most of humanity. Holidays, birthdays, anniversaries, seasonal celebrations. Putting it on the calendar doesn’t mean you’re obligated, it means it’s reserved and valued enough to make formal space for it.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by blinkeer on Monday December 28, 2020 @08:02AM (#25558878)
I agree with this to some extent. My issue with the public forum and ritual applause is that it becomes mechanical. In my experience, people are often left out or events are forgotten. I was sometimes baffled at the items that were being expressed, it felt a bit political even. Not saying a public forum like this can't work, just that it seems easy for it to go awry.

I've been publicly recognized and appreciated it, I've also received quiet thank you notes. I know I like the latter more.

Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by c_s_guy on Sunday December 27, 2020 @04:14PM (#25554310)
I imagine it might also cause adverse effects if someone happens to be missed.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by ImaCake on Sunday December 27, 2020 @04:34PM (#25554453)
I have personally experienced this. My otherwise really good manager had a monthly vote for the best worker in our small team where each vote was publicly announced. I, and another coworker, never got a vote while others got several. Really great way to make some of your workers feel really left out!
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by henry_bone on Sunday December 27, 2020 @05:20PM (#25554770)
The OP was talking about genuine, honest communication. I think these rituals in work teams have the correct idea. Their hearts are in the right place, so to speak, but it doesn't really work perfectly. As you've said some can feel left out. Others might just feel uncomfortable.

The idea is good: share the love, highlight good work. But it probably better just to let people know more naturally.

Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by ImaCake on Sunday December 27, 2020 @05:32PM (#25554847)
Absolutely. My current workplace is very good at the organic thankyou. I try my best to show gratitude where I can.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by cutemonster on Sunday December 27, 2020 @06:30PM (#25555145)
What could have caused you and the other one to not get any votes, at the previous workplace? I'm guessing it was not work performance or anything like that

(The votes were publicly announced -- and also who had voted?)

Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by ImaCake on Sunday December 27, 2020 @11:44PM (#25556742)
Me and the other worker were much less willing to work free overtime. The company also had a really dishonest culture and I chafed under that system. I was a bad fit for the job really, so I could have just been what they perceived as bad.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by Natanael_L on Sunday December 27, 2020 @07:22PM (#25555458)
It can be something simple like having work with more visible impact
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by mangamadaiyan on Sunday December 27, 2020 @09:15PM (#25556097)
_Perceived_ impact, if I might add?
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by heneryville on Sunday December 27, 2020 @07:15PM (#25555409)
This is precisely why leaderboards suck. Instead of picking the single best contributor, do as the OP did and acknowledge all good contributors.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by symlinkk on Sunday December 27, 2020 @05:03PM (#25554651)
If they handed out the award to everyone it would be meaningless
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by eyelidlessness on Sunday December 27, 2020 @08:00PM (#25555726)
On the contrary: If you have a team member who no one sees fit to find praise for, it’s probably a bad fit. Praise doesn’t need to be superlative to be sincere. Not everyone has to be a “rockstar” to deserve positive validation.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by briandear on Sunday December 27, 2020 @05:20PM (#25554774)
That sounds horrible to me. I’d much rather be in the background rather than getting effusive, mandatory public praise. Maybe I’m weird, but I’m not motivated by cupcakes, gold stars and clapping. If I do a good job, that’s just the minimum standard. If I do something worthy of clapping, then just remember that when it’s time to award annual RSUs and bonuses or when a special project comes up that needs leadership.

To me it’s embarrassing to be recognized publicly for literally doing what I am being paid to do. Instead, perhaps recognize each week the people that didn’t meet the standard:

“Wanted to recognize Bob this week for being a bit of a douche as well as letting all of us down when he messed up the build system and delayed our build delivery to QA and the Loc team thus having the rest of us having to scramble over the weekend to clean up the mess. Thanks Bob!”

Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by jodrellblank on Monday December 28, 2020 @01:01AM (#25557087)
> "when a special project comes up that needs leadership."

You think complimenting people is horrible, people should be publicly shamed, insulted and blamed for the failure of the team, and fancy yourself for a leadership role? Grief.

Instead, perhaps take the "if you're on time, you're late, being early is the minimum" self-satisfied chip off your shoulder and realise that blaming Bob for you being a doormat and working on the weekend is you being "a bit of a douche".

Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by spacedcowboy on Sunday December 27, 2020 @05:54PM (#25554972)
This.

I don’t want claps from my peers. I’ve already figured out if they like my work or not from day-to-day interaction.

If you want to recognize my contribution, give me money - that’s why I’m here. This is a business relationship. I work, you pay. Pay up.

Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by yakshaving_jgt on Monday December 28, 2020 @10:01AM (#25559658)
> Instead, perhaps recognize each week the people that didn’t meet the standard

My goodness. This is horrifying.

Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by corobo on Sunday December 27, 2020 @07:06PM (#25555352)
Mandatory clap time sounds horrible haha. I guess it's nowhere as near as robotic as it sounds in reality
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by ShroudedNight on Sunday December 27, 2020 @07:57PM (#25555707)
For me it evokes similar groupthink revulsion to the Walmart cheer or IBM's "Ever Onward". It's more on the 'Happy Birthday to You' side of the scale than a North Korean ode to dear leader, but still not edifying or pleasant.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by eyelidlessness on Sunday December 27, 2020 @08:02PM (#25555737)
Nothing about it sounds mandatory to me. It sounds like their team/company culture values recognition and openly & sincerely engages it as part of their schedule.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by corobo on Sunday December 27, 2020 @11:24PM (#25556655)
Aye I mentioned somewhere how I doubt it's as bad as I read into it
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by samstave on Sunday December 27, 2020 @07:15PM (#25555410)
You’re not showing enough flair
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by LandR on Sunday December 27, 2020 @05:26PM (#25554812)
I'd hate that.

I'm cringing just thinking of a team doing that.

Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by sailfast on Sunday December 27, 2020 @06:08PM (#25555047)
Lots of folks seem to dislike the star / hero approach, but my team has a simple “thanks” column in our retros and it works really well to set the tone for the rest of the conversation - and it’s a great reminder to say thanks. Even if it’s just “thanks for being you.” It’s a great way to express gratitude without it having to be some “best of the best” style moment.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by adamsea on Sunday December 27, 2020 @07:25PM (#25555478)
That sounds reasonable and way different than like going around the circle and peer-pressuring everyone into delivering a compliment and then clapping as a group.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by adamsea on Sunday December 27, 2020 @07:23PM (#25555464)
IMHO:

It’s appropriate for a manager or team lead to do this. It’s not appropriate to make it the norm (even if it’s “optional”) for the whole team.

Much better for a leader to model the desired behavior, and, create space for those on the team, of their own volition and without peer pressure, follow suit.

It will also be much more authentic, real, and meaningful.

Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by da39a3ee on Monday December 28, 2020 @03:40AM (#25557693)
I think you've missed the point. The article was about genuine emotions.
Re:Just Wanted to Say Thanks by vinay_ys on Monday December 28, 2020 @03:44AM (#25557707)
Sounds like a psychological conditioning (behavior modification) regimen. Beware, it has a very sharp slippery slope towards unethical conditions.