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Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by el_dev_hell on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @05:27PM (#25366171)
Note: the below is an anecdote from my life. I have no medical/psychological training past a psy 101 class in uni.

I took a fair amount of MDMA in my late teens/early twenties. Mostly in nightclubs and music festivals. It was cool at the time (great memories and the music 100% was better).

In my late twenties (after 5+ years without MDMA), my partner and I decided to roll after getting some MDMA off the dark web. We went to a bar, which was my past go-to, and had an OK night. We left pretty early and went home.

When we got home, we had 100mg left each and decided to roll in the peace of our house. We both dropped a cap and spent the next 6 hours having very deep conversations and just caressing each other (I especially enjoyed touching her hair).

We didn't have any major issues in our relationship leading up to that night, but we did have a bit of friction over our future plans. After that one night, our relationship was at least 30% more pleasant and we both felt significantly closer to each other.

We still have a great relationship 2 years later. Obviously, the MDMA isn't the only factor, but it helped to dramatically strengthen our feelings towards each other.

One downside was sex. She was very in the mood and I was unable to perform on MDMA.

YMMV.

Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by ews on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @08:57PM (#25368596)
Frequent and very conscious MDMA self-therapy sessions are the reason me and my wife managed to stay together few years ago when we hit a huge crisis. Every time we hit an (aparently) unsummable problem, we made good note of the issues we had and took the substance, previously and carefully tested. This was years ago. We never went back to the substance because we managed to solve most of our issues.

Nothing opens the soul (figuratively) as much as this substance. I still can't even begin to comprehend why MDMA is still illegal.

With (huge) caution, I would recommend anyone who struggles with PTSD and trauma related couple issues to first seek professional counseling, second, read as much as they can and then consider using MDMA on a therapy setting.

Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by loceng on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @06:23PM (#25366927)
By "unable to perform" - OPs being unable to get an erection, which is very commonly difficult while doing MDMA - at least until before the come down. Abstain for 3-5+ days, the longer the easier to get an erection; it's still difficult to impossible to orgasm until after the come down as well.
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by el_dev_hell on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @06:31PM (#25367046)
That's all accurate to my experience.
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by reader_mode on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @08:40PM (#25368452)
Viagra/Cialis don't work ?
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by JacobSuperslav on Thursday December 10, 2020 @03:16AM (#25371161)
MDMA is quite tough on the heart and especially dangerous if you have arrhythmia like afibs. Viagra is taxing too so I'd ask a doctor first before combining them.
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by bayesian_horse on Thursday December 10, 2020 @03:42AM (#25371325)
As if a doctor is going to say "sure, it's ok for you to take MDMA" under any circumstances...
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by JacobSuperslav on Thursday December 10, 2020 @05:36AM (#25372174)
My therapist is saying that I can keep taking my LSD if I think it helps me. I had/have issues with anxiety and depression, but I'm off regular SSRIs for now. I take psychedelics when I feel my brain needs a "break". I'm also confident psychedelics help me a lot with drinking less, so it's a big win in my book. Drugs are decriminalized where I live too.
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by bayesian_horse on Sunday December 13, 2020 @05:12AM (#25405516)
Yes there are exceptions of well informed, well meaning doctors.

They have to quite careful though, because it's not totally impossible to run into liability issues.

Also there are dangers with psychedelics or other psychoactive drugs and psychiatric illnesses. It's not all a rosy picture...

Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by hopsrider on Thursday December 10, 2020 @05:23AM (#25372073)
I'm currently living in Amsterdam and am seeing a Psychiatrist for my ADHD. We primary talk about dopamine and amphetamines (Adderal/Dexedrine/Ritalin), but have very open conversations about MDMA and psylocilibin. Granted here in the Netherlands you can walk in to any smart shop and buy psychedelic truffles and of course, weed in the coffeeshops.
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by dkdk8283 on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @08:45PM (#25368503)
It does. You can also use toys on her.
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by vsssk on Thursday December 10, 2020 @03:51AM (#25371382)
I remember being on MDMA with my girlfriend, her talking to me about us, our relationship, and me thinking how little I care about any of this. We broke up within 6 months. YMMV indeed. Maybe molly is just molly.
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by throwaway_pdp09 on Thursday December 10, 2020 @05:29AM (#25372111)
MDMA works on what's there, it doesn't conjure up what was clearly not there in you at the time.
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by 09bjb on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @10:27PM (#25369290)
Thanks for your anecdote. Just came here to say that I'm enjoying similar benefits in the relationship with myself, so to speak. I go strictly by the book (the book being "Trust, Surrender, Receive" in this case) with exact dosages, a trusted and sober friend/attendant, and the intention to learn and grow from the experience. It's helped a ton with behavioral patterns that I needed to leave behind, a victim mindset that turned out to be the sole cause of my depression, and has really helped turn my existential curiosity into a source of fulfillment rather than panic.

YMMV as well, but +1 to the comments here wondering how this medicine can be illegal for therapeutic use.

Two caveats: always test your stuff (DanceSafe sells test kits), and remember that the drug is just some extra help/horsepower behind whatever therapy you do and the intention to treat yourself right.

Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by recuter on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @06:23PM (#25366938)
I like taking coffee naps. Idea being that if you time it right the caffeine starts kicking in just as you are waking up from the nap.

If you want to enjoy an activity under the influence of MDMA try to time it so you're already doing it when it hits you.

Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by PIKAL on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @10:46PM (#25369419)
If you want the best sex of your life, use 2C-B. I’ve never used it but my username checks out.
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by pvarangot on Thursday December 10, 2020 @12:40AM (#25370208)
I personally thing Shulgin was having a very horny time in his life when he was experimenting with 2C-B and the drug is not particularly that aphrodisiac.

That being said of the psychedelics I researched it is one of the ones were the body feelings don't impair penile sexual function.

Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by 3131s on Thursday December 10, 2020 @03:12AM (#25371144)
I'd recommend these for a tactile psychedelic. I wouldn't say the experience is overtly sexual at all, but it doesn't get in the way and like many other activities the experience is enhanced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-MeO-MiPT

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-Methoxy-N,N-diisopropyltrypt...

Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by GordonS on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @05:35PM (#25366273)
Just wanted to say that I appreciate you sharing this interesting, personal story!
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by ttul on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @05:43PM (#25366368)
20mg Cialis, just saying.
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by qwerty456127 on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @06:37PM (#25367122)
Indeed. There is a cocktail of pill to consider taking before MDMA: it's piracetam, magnesium, vitamins, anti-oxidants (all these contribute to improving the trip, minimizing harm and preventing hangover[1]) and Viagra/Cialis. Even if you are young and healthy (and especially if you are - AFAIK Viagra is kind of unsafe to mix with other stuff if you're old).

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwTqlw8yGnI

But don't ever take Viagra (I don't know about Cialis) with MDMA alternatives like 6APB - that's supposed to be a particularly cardiotoxic combination.

Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by pmoriarty on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @06:51PM (#25367298)
"But don't ever take Viagra (I don't know about Cialis) with MDMA alternatives like 6APB - that's supposed to be a particularly cardiotoxic combination."

In general, combining drugs is a bit like playing Russian Roulette. Very few such combinations have been thoroughly studied (or sometimes not studied at all), so people rarely have any idea what effects these combinations will have long-term, or sometimes even short term.

Mostly, people take them based on rumors, hearsay, and anecdotes, which is kind of sad. They've heard some random guy on the internet say it was a good combo, or their buddy told them it worked for them, and somehow in their mind that makes it a good idea to try it.

Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by qwerty456127 on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @07:21PM (#25367647)
Sure. The problem is nobody is interested in funding the research/trials.

Given ~15 years of experience using it in myself and many friends I would bet big money piracetam makes a huge difference (in many situations, not just MDMA) and usually is a great thing to combine with anything (I don't know if it's always the case though, perhaps there is a combination which may be deadly) and it's been invented half a century ago but FDA wouldn't even bother to approve it safe, let alone useful.

I wish some scientists could go through all the reports found on the Internet and study every one of repeatedly described effects.

Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by qwerty456127 on Thursday December 10, 2020 @05:45AM (#25372248)
> but FDA wouldn't even bother to approve it safe, let alone useful

Which is not necessarily bad. They might schedule it as a prescription drug (as in many, although not in all countries) if they confirmed it works.

Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by orasis on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @07:55PM (#25368000)
Piracetam by itself just gives me brain fog. I doubt I’d want to combine it with anything else.
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by qwerty456127 on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @08:12PM (#25368197)
Different people experience different effects. There are some desirable effects most of the people get anyway.
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by jokowueu on Thursday December 10, 2020 @05:13AM (#25371995)
Just FYI U seem interested in this . NAC seems to bring back the magic if u lost it . Google "nac mdma magic".

Basically take 2 grams or more a day for a few weeks then stop for a day and try E .

Dont take back with mdma since it seems to reduce some of the good effects

Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by qwerty456127 on Thursday December 10, 2020 @05:30AM (#25372126)
The problem with NAC is it causes nightmares in some people. Is it OK to take it in the morning rather than before going to bed?

By the way it's worth mentioning NAC is the same exact substance like in the ACC cough pills but can be bought in bulk powder 10 times cheaper.

Many people take it (as an extremely potent antioxidant) regularly but it's not clear if prolonged supplementation can prevent cancer or cause it.

Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by efwfwef on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @07:01PM (#25367406)
Same thing here, she was much more in the mood than usual, and I couldn't do anything.
Re:MDMA-assisted couples therapy investigated in pilot trial by orasis on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @07:53PM (#25367976)
1/2 a cialis works for me.