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Re:TSMC and Google push chipmaking boundaries with 3D 'stack... by colechristensen on Thursday November 26, 2020 @02:31AM (#25217742)
Real quick we're going to need to go back to treating modern CPUs like munitions with severe export controls.
Re:TSMC and Google push chipmaking boundaries with 3D 'stack... by mschuster91 on Thursday November 26, 2020 @02:34AM (#25217773)
For what? The Western world imports CPUs already (so no way for export controls), and China can design and manufacture their own CPUs.
Re:TSMC and Google push chipmaking boundaries with 3D 'stack... by baybal2 on Thursday November 26, 2020 @02:52AM (#25217869)
In fact, your smartphone probably already exceed all ITARed chips by computing power, and it's a big irony that all of them go through China before reaching the US.

If China wanted to put some into their ICBMs, they would've been just better off wiring a smartphone to the rocket.

Re:TSMC and Google push chipmaking boundaries with 3D 'stack... by jacquesm on Thursday November 26, 2020 @03:36AM (#25218084)
Re:TSMC and Google push chipmaking boundaries with 3D 'stack... by mschuster91 on Thursday November 26, 2020 @04:24AM (#25218327)
> If China wanted to put some into their ICBMs, they would've been just better off wiring a smartphone to the rocket.

Why am I reminded of the plot of Iron Sky 1?

Re:TSMC and Google push chipmaking boundaries with 3D 'stack... by colechristensen on Thursday November 26, 2020 @04:10AM (#25218261)
It would make designing advanced CPUs for foreign manufacture illegal so further advancements couldn’t be stolen and ensuring on shore chip fab capability.

“export” controls doesn’t mean just goods, but also designs, specifications, even basic information

Re:TSMC and Google push chipmaking boundaries with 3D 'stack... by varispeed on Thursday November 26, 2020 @04:39AM (#25218407)
> so further advancements couldn’t be stolen

How would you ensure the advancements couldn't be stolen? I thought we learned over the years that if hostile power wants a technology, sooner or later they will get it.

Re:TSMC and Google push chipmaking boundaries with 3D 'stack... by colechristensen on Thursday November 26, 2020 @05:10AM (#25218572)
It’s about adding friction, not achieving perfection. Chips are so complex and fabs so specialized and elaborate that it would seem relatively easy to keep development secrets rather well. They already have to build them in high grade clean rooms.
Re:TSMC and Google push chipmaking boundaries with 3D 'stack... by adrianN on Thursday November 26, 2020 @11:52AM (#25221568)
Recall that the Manhattan Project was done under as much secrecy as you could possibly hope for, but that there were multiple independent spies.
Re:TSMC and Google push chipmaking boundaries with 3D 'stack... by jansan on Thursday November 26, 2020 @02:49AM (#25217855)
Remember when they intended to put an export ban on the PlayStation2 to North Korea, because the chips were so powerful that they could be used for missile guidance?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/716237.stm

Re:TSMC and Google push chipmaking boundaries with 3D 'stack... by roselan on Thursday November 26, 2020 @03:45AM (#25218131)
Wasn't it simply a marketing stunt?
Re:TSMC and Google push chipmaking boundaries with 3D 'stack... by dole on Thursday November 26, 2020 @04:00AM (#25218216)
Inconclusive, don’t see much pointing to a stunt. PS2 and PS3 clusters were used for military testing purposes, at the least.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/20-years-later-how-concerns-about...

Re:TSMC and Google push chipmaking boundaries with 3D 'stack... by kube-system on Thursday November 26, 2020 @11:43AM (#25221452)