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Re:AIM AV by staunch on Friday May 06, 2011 @12:26AM (#2520006)
This is presumably using Adobe's new RTMFP[1] which means it's all P2P. Same way Chat Roulette works.

It's extremely easy to create this kind of thing now (as in hours of work for a simple version).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Media_Flow_Protocol

Re:AIM AV by bravura on Friday May 06, 2011 @01:04AM (#2520057)
Are there any good open-source implementations?
Re:AIM AV by jallmann on Friday May 06, 2011 @03:29AM (#2520276)
assuming you mean RTMFP: https://github.com/OpenRTMFP/Cumulus
Re:AIM AV by Meai on Friday May 06, 2011 @11:28AM (#2521190)
Last time I checked, red5 was trying to reverse engineer the protocol. Not sure how far they are.
Re:AIM AV by windsurfer on Friday May 06, 2011 @01:27AM (#2520096)
Of what? Flash? RTMP? 4-way video chat?

If you want all that in a single package, no.

Re:AIM AV by BasilAwad on Friday May 06, 2011 @11:41AM (#2521252)
What if I want to record. Help please?
Re:AIM AV by dangoldin on Thursday May 05, 2011 @11:42PM (#2519919)
"note: this app is for internal AOL use only"

I wonder if this is some brilliant marketing ploy.

Re:AIM AV by vnorby on Thursday May 05, 2011 @11:51PM (#2519942)
It's definitely a ploy. If they wanted to test it with just their employees, they would have put it behind their firewall.
Re:AIM AV by alex1 on Thursday May 05, 2011 @11:59PM (#2519960)
Back in the late 90's and early 00's, I remember discovering a bunch of "internal" AOL sites. Even after posting about them on forums, AOL didn't seem to care much (unless they could be used to steal accounts).
Re:AIM AV by joelandren on Friday May 06, 2011 @03:16AM (#2520253)
And would have forgone the splash page.
Re:AIM AV by mgkimsal on Friday May 06, 2011 @06:54AM (#2520605)
unless they mean only for use on AOL's network, and not cross-network like with gtalk or msn chat. It's worded just awkwardly enough that I could see non-techies making that wording mistake.
Re:AIM AV by hallowtech on Thursday May 05, 2011 @11:50PM (#2519937)
Sometimes I look at websites with cloud backgrounds and think they're moving. This time I was right!
Re:AIM AV by jtreminio on Friday May 06, 2011 @09:31AM (#2520860)
Re:AIM AV by riffic on Thursday May 05, 2011 @11:55PM (#2519948)
If this is done right AOL would adopt a standard that would allow interoperability.

The way its looking right now in the voice/video messaging scene is we're gonna have communication islands and the only way to reach someone is to run five different service's clients.

Re:AIM AV by saucerful on Friday May 06, 2011 @12:07AM (#2519975)
Isn't this what XMPP (the protocol google uses for gchat) is all about, at least for text? (c.f. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Messaging_and_Presen... )

Is A/V over XMPP standardized?

Re:AIM AV by metajack on Friday May 06, 2011 @12:14AM (#2519989)
Yes. Google did the original work for Jingle, but passed it to the XSF for standardization. That work has been done for some time and implementations have been appearing in various places.

Even so, I suspect it will be a long time before Skype, Apple, and everyone else does anything but try to set their own standards.

Re:AIM AV by jallmann on Friday May 06, 2011 @03:51AM (#2520301)
This works over Flash, which means you're confined to RTMP... while it's possible to tunnel a more standard protocol on top of that and open up the other end to third-party clients, (or simply gateway to $protocol), I doubt they've thought that far out yet.

There are pragmatic reasons for the fragmentation we're seeing, although those don't necessarily correspond to the customer's favored outcome. Federation reduces the stickiness coefficient of your product, and forces you to design your application around a protocol that may not fit your needs ideally, cf. Skype's supernode architecture.

Re:AIM AV by geuis on Thursday May 05, 2011 @11:58PM (#2519959)
The fellow in the middle of the photo is Frederick Van Johnson, host of the great photography podcast This Week in Photo.
Re:AIM AV by iag on Friday May 06, 2011 @12:27AM (#2520007)
Wow, I'd use this over skype now.
Re:AIM AV by ChrisArchitect on Friday May 06, 2011 @09:01AM (#2520801)
re: skype/facetime - if this RTMFP thing picks up, seems like there could be tons of services like this soon. no need for facekype. In some ways, this has been around for a bit, just maybe not a cleanly/easy to develop. tinychat anyone?
Re:AIM AV by Chico on Thursday May 12, 2011 @05:46AM (#2539986)
Hm, some competition for http://www.faceflow.com and tinychat.com :)
Re:AIM AV by briteside on Friday May 06, 2011 @10:08AM (#2520948)
That screenshot is just begging for a caption contest
Re:AIM AV by younata on Friday May 06, 2011 @02:05AM (#2520153)
hasn't iChat had this for several years now?
Re:AIM AV by mcritz on Friday May 06, 2011 @05:56AM (#2520498)
Only on macs and only on the Desktop.
Re:AIM AV by hexley on Friday May 06, 2011 @06:01AM (#2520506)
Pretty sure iChat could video chat with AIM on PCs for years, haven't tried in forever though.
Re:AIM AV by mcritz on Friday May 06, 2011 @08:18AM (#2520705)
You can do a one-on-one chat between Macs on iChat and PCs running AIM, but you cannot do a three-way chat.
Re:AIM AV by MatthewB on Friday May 06, 2011 @01:43AM (#2520119)
This is very cool. Facetime competition?
Re:AIM AV by davidedicillo on Friday May 06, 2011 @09:44AM (#2520890)
<sarcasm>Definitely, I'm sure Flash for mobile device will be so much better very soon.</sarcasm>
Re:AIM AV by terinjokes on Thursday May 05, 2011 @11:43PM (#2519921)
what's up with the "note: this app is for internal AOL use only" tag?
Re:AIM AV by truebosko on Thursday May 05, 2011 @11:44PM (#2519927)
TechCrunch posted about it here: http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/05/aol-aim-av-chat/

Looks like AOL is still internally testing it, but TC decided to spill the beans.

Re:AIM AV by dotBen on Friday May 06, 2011 @12:05AM (#2519972)
Or someone made an elaborate marketing decision to not have the email sent to TechCrunch team so that then someone internally at aol would leak it to TechCrunch and in turn TechCrunch would be excited to leak it to the public. Thus making everyone seem special and 'in the know' and thus greater chance of it being shared and talked about.

Like here.

Re:AIM AV by reledi on Friday May 06, 2011 @12:14AM (#2519985)
Or they explicitly requested TechCrunch to write about it and say it was "leaked" to build up hype.
Re:AIM AV by deathand on Friday May 06, 2011 @03:05PM (#2522084)
shhhh