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Re:macOS Big Sur Update Bricking Some Older MacBook Pro Models by rubicon33 on Sunday November 15, 2020 @02:56PM (#25104208)
Often because the OS won't stop alerting you all the time that you have an update.
Re:macOS Big Sur Update Bricking Some Older MacBook Pro Models by tinus_hn on Sunday November 15, 2020 @03:12PM (#25104358)
Mac OS is not Windows, it doesn’t install automatically and the prompts are much more reasonable.
Re:macOS Big Sur Update Bricking Some Older MacBook Pro Models by biktor_gj on Sunday November 15, 2020 @03:49PM (#25104683)
That is not true since Mojave. It will always tell you you have a pending update, it will dump a notification to update to Big Sur (already happened to me this morning), and it'll do it's best to confuse you to update.

Case in point: if you have catalina and you go to system preferences, system updates, you will have the big sur update in big, then some text on the bottom of the window saying something like "there are some other updates..." and then you'll see the security updates for your current OS

Re:macOS Big Sur Update Bricking Some Older MacBook Pro Models by tinus_hn on Sunday November 15, 2020 @04:34PM (#25105103)
Compared to Windows where the upgrade happens automatically.
Re:macOS Big Sur Update Bricking Some Older MacBook Pro Models by calciphus on Sunday November 15, 2020 @05:21PM (#25105496)
Saying "windows is worse" doesn't really mean Apple is fine here. This isn't a post about how a forced Windows update is bricking Microsoft-built hardware with no guaranteed rollback or recovery path.

This is a post about how a major software update from a vendor is breaking their own hardware, and from a company that prides itself on not needing to be a computer expert to use their products.

Re:macOS Big Sur Update Bricking Some Older MacBook Pro Models by tinus_hn on Monday November 16, 2020 @03:51AM (#25109557)
> Saying "windows is worse" doesn't really mean Apple is fine here.

That’s why I didn’t say that.

Re:macOS Big Sur Update Bricking Some Older MacBook Pro Models by cute_boi on Sunday November 15, 2020 @05:19PM (#25105473)
windows also doesn't upgrade windows 8 to windows 10 like this . windows 10 to windows 10 isn't that breaking change so its fair and osx is not better than this since mojave.
Re:macOS Big Sur Update Bricking Some Older MacBook Pro Models by tinus_hn on Monday November 16, 2020 @08:51AM (#25111576)
Except it does, which is why people made tools like this:

https://appuals.com/stop-windows-7-from-upgrading-to-windows...

Re:macOS Big Sur Update Bricking Some Older MacBook Pro Models by neogodless on Monday November 16, 2020 @02:08PM (#25115668)
I guess because I've always used Professional, I have never been surprised or forced by an update.
Re:macOS Big Sur Update Bricking Some Older MacBook Pro Models by happymellon on Monday November 16, 2020 @02:39AM (#25109131)
Yes it does. I get notifications that there is an update for MacOS and it will be applied tonight unless I hit the notification and tell it not to or apply immediately.

I have come to my MacBook Pro and found it on the Enter Password boot screen after it decided to reboot overnight, and then helpfully tells me about the security update it did.

Re:macOS Big Sur Update Bricking Some Older MacBook Pro Models by tinus_hn on Monday November 16, 2020 @03:52AM (#25109576)
You can turn automatic updates on or off. If they are turned on, they are automatic.
Re:macOS Big Sur Update Bricking Some Older MacBook Pro Models by happymellon on Monday November 16, 2020 @04:04AM (#25109645)
The point is the gpp

> Mac OS is not Windows, it doesn’t install automatically and the prompts are much more reasonable.

It does by default.

Re:macOS Big Sur Update Bricking Some Older MacBook Pro Models by tinus_hn on Monday November 16, 2020 @05:50AM (#25110281)
A significant difference is that on one OS you can change the setting from the default, while on the other you can’t.
Re:macOS Big Sur Update Bricking Some Older MacBook Pro Models by Rebelgecko on Sunday November 15, 2020 @05:40PM (#25105660)
I have a prompt to update on my Catalina machine that can't be permanently dismissed, only slept until the next morning