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Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by hguant on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:35PM (#25060531)
In the US at least, stockpiling antibiotics is a little tricky - kind of hard to find a doctor who will just write you a prescription for cipro "just in case."
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by LinuxBender on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:38PM (#25060584)
Or any medications for that matter. I've gone down this path. The best I could do was to get the doctor to double-up my prescriptions for a while, which gave me a 3 month buffer. That is why I am trying to learn how to make my prescriptions. Super dangerous, but I don't want to rely on fragile economies. I just watched a country lose its mind and take all the toilet paper.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by copperx on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @01:24PM (#25061141)
You're learning to "make your own prescriptions"? Do you mean forging them or becoming a nurse practitioner?
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by wolfram74 on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @04:56PM (#25063504)
Some of the more mundane anti-biotics are pretty simple, as far as organic chemistry goes, I take bupropion[1] and the synthesis section doesn't look /too/ complicated. My o-chem has about 10 years of rust on it though.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupropion

Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by brohee on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @04:41PM (#25063369)
I understood it as manufacturing/extracting the right molecule.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by johndevor on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:40PM (#25060600)
You can buy anti biotics over the counter in Mexico.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by copperx on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @01:25PM (#25061155)
That used to be true about 8 years ago, but not anymore. You need a prescription for any antibiotic.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by LinuxBender on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:44PM (#25060647)
How about all the other medications? I stay clear of anti-biotics anyway.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by ghaff on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:57PM (#25060835)
>I stay clear of anti-biotics anyway.

You certainly shouldn't pop them for no good reason. But antibiotics can absolutely be life saving in the event of an infection.

Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by LinuxBender on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @01:02PM (#25060891)
For sure, some people need it. Anti-biotics are abused heavily here in the U.S. which in itself is a major health risk, when the person might legitimately need them. People are even eating anti-biotics without knowing it. What beef producers are allowed to do with anti-biotics and plastic waste is obscene.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by ceejayoz on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @01:37PM (#25061304)
The meat industry certainly overuses antibiotics, but the claim that "people are even eating antibiotics without knowing it" doesn't seem to be accurate.

https://www.cdc.gov/drugresistance/food.html

> Food animals should not have any antibiotics in their body when they are slaughtered or processed for food. Antibiotic residues are small amounts of leftover antibiotics or pieces of antibiotics that are not completely absorbed after an animal is given antibiotics. USDA, with FDA and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), administers the U.S. National Residue Program (NRP) to prevent residues that pose a potential threat to human health from entering the food supply.

Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by LinuxBender on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @02:06PM (#25061663)
I don't disagree, but I think part of the reason they can say that is that it has not been exhaustively studied. There are various articles on nih.gov [1] that summarize the problem and what would be required to properly study this. There is also a big monetary advantage to using antibiotics in animals which makes me skeptical of any documentation. Perhaps I am too skeptical.

[1] - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK216502/

Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by macksd on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:40PM (#25060599)
You don't need a prescription to buy antibiotics that are sold for pets, like fish. And you can buy antibiotics that are sold for pets that happen to be the same as the antibiotics manufactured for humans.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by hguant on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:49PM (#25060725)
>And you can buy antibiotics that are sold for pets that happen to be the same as the antibiotics manufactured for human

Yes, but there's a quality control aspect there that makes one a touch uncomfortable. My fish getting a little something extra in their amoxicillin is something I stress far less about then if I'm the one taking the pill.

Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by macksd on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:53PM (#25060778)
That was my first thought too, but if I think I might go septic soon, I'm gonna take that risk. Additionally, I believe if the imprint codes match on a commercial product, you can be reasonably sure it was forced to go through all the same process: https://www.drugs.com/article/imprint-codes.html. I'm not a doctor, obviously. Sharing my possibly flawed understanding, not giving advice.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by wnevets on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:56PM (#25060818)
If the apocalypse was happening outside my bunker a little extra amoxicillin would be the least of my worries.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by RandallBrown on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @01:18PM (#25061051)
I've had doctors prescribe me antibiotics "just in case" when I was going to be traveling.

It's probably not something you could ask for too often, but I don't think it'd be that hard to do.

Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by hef19898 on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @01:47PM (#25061433)
Depends on the destination. For trips to Africa, India or East Asia, that's not hard over here neither.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by centimeter on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:46PM (#25060684)
You can buy pet antibiotics online from canada. It's the same shit as human antibiotics.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by blacksmith_tb on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:52PM (#25060763)
I thought people often bought aquarium antibiotics over the counter to stockpile? I guess dosage could be a little more tricky, though.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by gowld on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:42PM (#25060634)
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by renewiltord on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:36PM (#25060555)
Pretty easy if you're willing to smuggle drugs across the border, though. You'll get away with a trip to South or East Asia and returning with a stockpile.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by driverdan on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @02:48PM (#25062156)
It's not smuggling when the drug isn't controlled.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by smallnamespace on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:46PM (#25060675)
It’s not hard to buy medication from India online.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by kritiko on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @01:29PM (#25061199)
Anecdotally, my doctor suggested a script for cipro for a trip to Thailand - and we ended up using it.
Re:Disaster prepping is mainstream again by stef25 on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @02:58PM (#25062273)
About 5 yrs ago a pharmacist in Bangkok sold me amoxicillin no questions asked. In the country side or in Laos or Cambodia it's even easier. Same for India and probably most of Africa. An extra 10$ goes a long way.