About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by bradlys on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:19PM (#25001565)

Well, let's not get crazy. It's fine (I'm using it currently because my Samsung S9 died) but it's definitely no perfect phone. It doesn't even have water resistance and the screen to body ratio is pretty bad, IMO.

Only upside is the thing is built in such a way that it has barely taken any damage from the years of abuse I put it through.

I'm likely getting an iPhone 12 Pro Max very soon and will continue to only use the iPhone 5S I've had since 2013 as a backup.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by radicaldreamer on Thursday November 05, 2020 @05:47PM (#25002931)

You're going from a 5s to a Pro Max? That's almost a jump across product categories... like switching from an iPhone to an iPad Mini.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by philistine on Thursday November 05, 2020 @07:26PM (#25003626)

Or from a Commodore 64 to a first-generation iMac.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by silly-silly on Friday November 06, 2020 @01:14AM (#25005377)

I remember the first generation imac, but i dont remember them being that bad.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by samoa42 on Friday November 06, 2020 @04:23AM (#25006287)

> the screen to body ratio is pretty bad, IMO

if rated against _my_ body, the ratio is damn near perfect

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by Tepix on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:16PM (#25001542)

If the 5S is perfect, what's the iPhone SE (2016)?

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by mikepurvis on Thursday November 05, 2020 @05:11PM (#25002624)

I love the 5S form factor as well. I only updated from it earlier this year to get iOS 13 to use the COVID Alert app here in Canada (and my upgrade was buying a smashed-screen iPhone SE for next to nothing, of course, and swapping the old phone's screen onto it).

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by rosstex on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:33PM (#25001677)

My current phone.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by gumby on Thursday November 05, 2020 @04:15PM (#25002054)

The price is definitely right -- cheaper than an upgrade!

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by CalChris on Thursday November 05, 2020 @08:28PM (#25003963)

What's in your back pocket? Seriously, love my SE. I just got the battery replaced, $49 taken from a MacBook trade-in value, so basically free since I can't use that money any other way.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by encom on Thursday November 05, 2020 @04:12PM (#25002030)

The last iPhone with proper headphone support.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by saagarjha on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:25PM (#25001621)

Not chamfered :(

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by jdhawk on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:58PM (#25001895)

sure they are, they're just matte finished.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by als0 on Monday November 16, 2020 @09:38AM (#25112133)

A replica.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by nbzso on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:24PM (#25001604)

The last iPhone that I use.:)

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by Tepix on Sunday November 08, 2020 @04:32PM (#25029273)

I have one also. Love it as a secondary phone

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by ezekg on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:16PM (#25001545)

How do you still have one that's running OK? My Apple products almost always "die" after a few years. I had the 5S but one day it crashed and would not turn back on no matter what I did. The iPhone I had before that did the same thing.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by reaperducer on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:58PM (#25001894)

How do you still have one that's running OK? My Apple products almost always "die" after a few years.

Consider yourself unlucky and never buy a lottery ticket.

Apple is well-known for making products that last longer than most others in the industry.

I have a launch day iPhone 5 that gets daily use and still works fine as of this morning. Launch day was in September of 2012.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by snazz on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:25PM (#25001615)

Is that a common issue? I've certainly heard about devices losing battery life and cameras progressively getting worse, but complete death is very uncommon unless you use it without a case and drop it all the time or something.

I still have a working iPhone 5 (no S) with a home button that spins and a slightly broken screen bezel but no other issues.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by CuriousSkeptic on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:32PM (#25001673)

I have a 4S still running.

At one point I thought it died permanently. But it turned out to only be the screen dimming to much. In bright light it auto adjusted enough to be visible, allowing me to rise the brightness.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by wiredfool on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:40PM (#25001742)

I had a 5s die at one point, it got reset to the point where it needed to activate, and couldn’t.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by hbbio on Thursday November 05, 2020 @05:04PM (#25002569)

The list of old Apple devices that still work well is impressive: I still have one original iPad, an iPhone 3GS, several iPhone 4. Same goes for the more recent ones, with the exception of the few devices that I dropped on hard floors over the last 10 years...

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by mattkevan on Thursday November 05, 2020 @06:28PM (#25003261)

Still have a first-generation iPod Touch running iOS 3. Works like a charm, can even download some apps from the App Store. Bit of a shock how both primitive and advanced the early versions of iOS were.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by jmnicolas on Friday November 06, 2020 @02:19AM (#25005711)

I had an iPad 1 running iOS 5 I think, but in the end I stopped using it because Safari would "crash" on most websites due to it running out of ram I guess.

IIRC there's 128M of ram on the fist iPad.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by zimpenfish on Thursday November 05, 2020 @07:08PM (#25003501)

I have a 4S that's still running perfectly happily. Can't do much with it, mind, given that everything is wildly out of date but it may yet get repurposed as a webcam when I get some free time.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by JohnBooty on Thursday November 05, 2020 @11:02PM (#25004769)

I believe you but I've honestly never heard of anybody suffering "random cellphone death" - Apple or otherwise. Everybody seems to break them or upgrade them long before that.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by fpoling on Friday November 06, 2020 @03:49AM (#25006101)

I had it with Nexus 5x. It died after 1.5 years when I used an app to get a train ticket. It turned out it was a known hardware bug judging by forums. It was in Norway so the phone was still under warranty and it was “repaired” - the motherboard was replaced. Still not much later I bought the original iPhone SE. I just did not like the idea of phone stopping working for no reason.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by Tepix on Sunday November 08, 2020 @04:34PM (#25029287)

Yes, the 5X has a known nardware issue.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by wil421 on Thursday November 05, 2020 @06:43PM (#25003363)

I have an iPhone 3GS and an iPad 2 that still work. They are very slow and most apps don’t support their oses. I’d still have an iPhone 7 Plus if it wasn’t at the bottom of a river rapid. My wife has a white MacBook somewhere from 2009/10.

The only problem I’ve had was a 2011 MBP have a gpu issue.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by abawany on Thursday November 05, 2020 @07:04PM (#25003480)

I fired up an old 5S as a result of this post and was sad to find that it appears to be dead.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by chews on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:25PM (#25001618)

The 12 mini is gonna be my next daily driver.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by ChrisMarshallNY on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:57PM (#25001890)

Same here.

I write iOS software, so I have a whole bunch of test units.

My "low-end" test unit is an iPod Touch (last gen). Basically, a skinny SE (Apple doesn't even have an iPod simulator -you're supposed to use an SE sim).

My regular daily phone is an Excess Max (XSMax). I'm sick to death of it. I don't have much use for all that screen real estate, and it's a big honkin' monster.

Every time I use my Touch, it makes me envious.

I'll be placing an order for a Mini, tomorrow.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by texasbigdata on Thursday November 05, 2020 @07:22PM (#25003606)

Some YouTube gadget reviewers agree with you and predict some “revivals”.

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