Mailchimp outlines right to ban users for “inaccurate” content

Re:Mailchimp outlines right to ban users for “inaccurate” co... by mmastrac on Friday October 30, 2020 @12:47PM (#24944119)

If you don't weed your online garden it will fester and turn into a sh*thole that nobody else wants to be in. If you didn't have strong moderation here on HN, you probably wouldn't be posting here.

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Re:Mailchimp outlines right to ban users for “inaccurate” co... by EricE on Friday October 30, 2020 @01:13PM (#24944456)

I don't need companies to moderate for me. Give me tools to moderate my own content, thank you.

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Re:Mailchimp outlines right to ban users for “inaccurate” co... by caseysoftware on Friday October 30, 2020 @01:24PM (#24944616)

As I've said elsewhere:

Personally, if [company] wants to filter or censor, go for it if and only if a) they disclose it and b) I can turn it off. We have a model for this already, it's called "safe search"

When you filter without disclosing, you're stealing my agency and creating a situation for near-undetectable abuse.

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Re:Mailchimp outlines right to ban users for “inaccurate” co... by joshuamorton on Friday October 30, 2020 @03:21PM (#24945872)

You're welcome to find a platform that does that. Perhaps unfortunately for you, I, like most users, prefer the platform to handle it for me, because I don't want to sift through garbage.

> We have a model for this already, it's called "safe search"

An interesting position, keep in mind that many people consider the act of ordering to be a form of censorship. That is, it is "censorship" if a site is pushed to the second page of the Google search results. You can't opt-out of that.

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Re:Mailchimp outlines right to ban users for “inaccurate” co... by crtasm on Friday October 30, 2020 @05:42PM (#24947151)

I can turn off safe search but that doesn't reinstate all the pages/sites that have been delisted entirely.

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Re:Mailchimp outlines right to ban users for “inaccurate” co... by account42 on Wednesday November 04, 2020 @06:44AM (#24988185)

Also, all major search engines will still filter lewd content even with safe search off unless you include trigger terms that makes it certain you are searching for that kind of content.

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Re:Mailchimp outlines right to ban users for “inaccurate” co... by mmastrac on Friday October 30, 2020 @02:05PM (#24945116)

I'm in perfect agreement, but you'll need to break up Twitter and Facebook first and get the babies onboard with a decentralized system.

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Re:Mailchimp outlines right to ban users for “inaccurate” co... by goatinaboat on Friday October 30, 2020 @01:17PM (#24944509)

Give me tools to moderate my own content, thank you.

Yep. In the old days you had a killfile in your newsreader (NNTP client), problem solved.

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Re:Mailchimp outlines right to ban users for “inaccurate” co... by Lammy on Friday October 30, 2020 @10:12PM (#24948623)

I agree with this take, but in a positive way instead of a negative way: If I find a community's norms distasteful I am empowered to leave :)

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Re:Mailchimp outlines right to ban users for “inaccurate” co... by lopmotr on Friday October 30, 2020 @03:15PM (#24945802)

MailChimp isn't a community is it? You can't read other people's mail if you're not on their address list. Recipients probably don't even know their emails came from MailChimp, let alone go there to participate in anything. With this rule, MailChimp is just poking their finger into organizations' private relationships with their subscribers.

Imagine a church emailing its members before Easter saying that Jesus rose from the dead. Since that's impossible, it's a clear violation of this misinformation rule. But I doubt MailChimp will ban it because their "sole discretion" is obviously going to be biased political opinion, not anything objective.

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