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Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by teekert on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @07:12AM (#24906262)
As a non-native speaker, can one say: "My Woman"? Or what would you recommend?
Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by adwi on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @08:01AM (#24906563)
This is a good question.

I think English itself is lacking a bit here—ie: it’s very common to say “you guys”, semi-regardless of gender of the subjects, because we don’t have a 2nd person plural tense.

The original line was a joke-ish, so here are some options given that context.

“Ma,am” - very formal, often read as exaggeratedly polite. You’d be most likely to see this in a customer service context, hence the meme: “Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s” when people rant inappropriately.

“My dear” - gent(/i)le, but can be read as misogynistic or belittling if you’re a man, especially one of higher “status”. From a female and/or peer, reads more as motherly advice. Use with caution.

“Lady” - sort of splitting the difference. Formal, but more what you’d hear from a grumpy bus driver. Probably funniest option here.

“Girl”/“gurl” - slangy and youthful, more a loan word from the drag community. You’d probably get downvoted on HN for it and upvoted on Reddit.

“My dude” - more current jokey response, it’s been churned through Twitter and youth culture to the point where it’s meaningless enough that “dude” almost works for either gender. Probably don’t use this one, might even get downvoted on Reddit.

Edit: god, sorry this turned out long, but it’s a pretty fun exercise.

Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by munificent on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @02:57PM (#24910601)
> because we don’t have a 2nd person plural tense.

Case, not tense, technically. "Tense" is for verbs.

English does have a variety of ways of indicating second person plural: "ya'll", "y'ins", "you all", and "you guys" are the most common. It's a shame English discarded "ye".

I like your alternate suggestions. In my family, we started using "bro" as gender neutral, at first ironically and now it's just stuck. I call my daughters "bro" all the time.

Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by lordgrenville on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @08:12AM (#24906640)
I'd say dude more than "almost" works for either gender - it's become totally gender-neutral.
Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by pmiller2 on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @09:10AM (#24907033)
I’ve had actual arguments over this. FWIW, I agree with you.
Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by cmendel on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @01:56PM (#24910003)
Yeah, my peer groups have been using dude as ungendered for over a decade at this point.
Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by JansjoFromIkea on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @08:09AM (#24906611)
"my friend" is probably the closest to what you're intending In my experience it pops up way more commonly amongst non-native speakers so your mileage may vary if the objective is to sound native.

I assume it's a turn of phrase that's more common in some other languages?

Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by longhairedhippy on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @10:04AM (#24907516)
Being originally from the South in the US, I prefer "y'all", it's nicely gender neutral and while plural, I can overlook that and use it in the singular as well.
Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by hguant on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @02:00PM (#24910046)
The problem is that if you use "y'all" in a Zoom meeting with a bunch of people from the Northeast, the conversation immediately becomes about how "oh you're from the SOUTH what's that like."
Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by jklein11 on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @07:52AM (#24906518)
My woman doesn’t sound right to me as a native English speaker. You could go with some non-gendered alternatives such as my friend or kimosabe. I guess the question is what we’re you trying to convey here?
Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by ceejayoz on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @07:21AM (#24906325)
The sentence works fine if it’s left off entirely.
Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by crispyporkbites on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @07:49AM (#24906497)
My friend
Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by greencar on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @07:51AM (#24906514)
m'lady
Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by projektfu on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @07:49AM (#24906503)
Kiddo
Re:The pandemic turned my parents into day traders by selimthegrim on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @08:27AM (#24906730)
chief