The same years during which you've done nothing to prevent the spread of seditious misinformation on Hacker News. If you were better moderators I might take your guidelines more seriously.
My thread with counter-arguments is detached and languishing at the bottom of the page, meanwhile all of the misinformation dominates the conversation comfortably from the top. This is a gross failure of the moderation on HN. Are you a human script, enforcing the guidelines with blinders on? Or are you a moderator, helping to craft thoughtful and good faith discussions, and to combat misinformation and propaganda?
I definitely don't want to penalize your counterarguments, but if you can't or won't decouple them from guidelines-breakage, what choice do we have? We do just the same with users and threads that are arguing the opposite.
There are two very different issues here: (1) Wayland; (2) protecting the commons. Important as the first one is, the second has to take precedence because it affects every topic, every thread, and the survival of the community.
* If phoronix made test maybe we need to make another one.
* If people say it is hard to make application we can show that GTK+ works on both X.Org and Wayland.
* If they say it is impossible to make screenshot show grim.
* If they say X11 networking show bitmaps traveling by network.
* If they say no Wayland improvements show video of tearing.
My arguments buried here too.
Believe me I understand how frustrating it is when the community or a large subset of commenters seem to be repeatedly and perversely wrong about something. But that is the internet doing its thing. We all run into it on some topic that we know a lot about and/or feel strongly about. It can't be stopped or fixed. All you can do is share some of what you know, and yes, it's Sisyphean because the whole thing is stateless and has to be repeated every time. It won't stop because you ask it to or want it to; "it" is impersonal and doesn't have consciousness to begin with. One needs to accept that for one's own sanity (I hope it's clear that I'm talking from personal experience about this) and then patiently supply corrective information wherever you can and have the energy. Telling people to "fucking knock it off" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24889242) is only going to hurt both yourself and your cause. We also can't allow it in comments here for obvious reasons (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) and we've been pleading with you for years already not to do it.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24885769.