YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by WORLD_ENDS_SOON on Friday October 23, 2020 @09:05PM (#24876031)

To add another item to the list of legal, legitimate uses of YouTube-dl: lots of public domain content is uploaded to YouTube, including a lot of media produced by the US government. For example, The White House has a YouTube channel, and my understanding of US law is that the vast majority of the content uploaded to that channel is public domain (produced by federal employees in the course of their job). Journalists or anyone else wanting to monitor the government would likely find YouTube-dl useful for archiving this public domain content from government channels.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by kortex on Friday October 23, 2020 @11:46PM (#24876785)

I've gobbled hours of Cspan videos with youtube-dl. Turns out cspan is a hodgepodge of like 3-5 video hosting and codec schemes, but it is able to pull about a 3rd of them no problem.

Definitely forking it, I need this to continue my research.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by gricardo99 on Saturday October 24, 2020 @12:52AM (#24877041)

Hope you can find a way to fork it. GitHub has disabled the repo and many forked repos.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by cookiecaper on Saturday October 24, 2020 @01:04AM (#24877090)

The beauty of `git clone` is that there are copies of the repository on many thousands of hard drives (including mine -- last pulled a few days back). The main loss at this point is the metadata stored in GitHub's proprietary addons, like issues.

We can hope this inspires a) greater suspicion toward proprietary players that are sitting atop open-source work like GitHub (they're not the only one by any stretch); and b) greater adoption of systems that distribute the software's entire history together, including documentation and bug reports, e.g. Fossil.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by dnlhtz on Saturday October 24, 2020 @10:44AM (#24879493)

I'm the Founder of BackHub and that's one of the reasons why we offer backups for GitHub repositories, incl. the metadata! Reach out for a discount.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by justinclift on Saturday October 24, 2020 @01:31AM (#24877181)

If no-one else has anything more recent, would you be ok to put yours online somewhere for others to grab?

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by justinclift on Saturday October 24, 2020 @02:05AM (#24877293)

Turns out it's not needed. There are up-to-date ones already around.

eg: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24873953

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by aabbcc1241 on Sunday October 25, 2020 @12:19AM (#24883807)

And there is GitCenter, which is git over zeronet (a p2p network similar to BitTorrent but for dynamic content)

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by osmay88 on Saturday October 24, 2020 @10:57AM (#24879579)

The code still in pypi, you can still get it from there

https://pypi.org/project/youtube-dlc/#files

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by xidl on Saturday October 24, 2020 @06:44PM (#24882496)

Is there alternative to github? Feels like there should be. One that isn't regulated, a wild west for lost code so to speak

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by jdc on Saturday October 24, 2020 @02:05AM (#24877294)

Try GitLab.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by arno1 on Saturday October 24, 2020 @02:50AM (#24877449)

Or Gitea!

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by zeckalpha on Saturday October 24, 2020 @08:55AM (#24878905)

Do either store issues as objects in the repo itself?

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by cmrdsprklpny on Saturday October 24, 2020 @10:55AM (#24879567)

Not git, but I believe fossil[1] does this.

[1]: https://www.fossil-scm.org/

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by jto1218 on Saturday October 24, 2020 @09:35AM (#24879141)

Do you know of any systems that do this? Seems like a good idea.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by CrazyPyroLinux on Saturday October 24, 2020 @10:52AM (#24879547)

I really like https://github.com/gitbucket/gitbucket for this.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by m-p-3 on Friday October 23, 2020 @10:56PM (#24876587)

Google should add direct download links for public domain content, but that's another fight entirely.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by johnchristopher on Friday October 23, 2020 @11:44PM (#24876772)

Why should they ? YouTube is in the streaming business, not the archival business. If someone wants to make their videos available for download they should post a link on their website, served through their servers and bandwidth.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by fauigerzigerk on Saturday October 24, 2020 @03:54AM (#24877665)

Youtube benefits from being everyone's go-to site for finding video content. Keeping that monopoly of mindshare is worth far more to them than any short sighted profit maximisation.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by bryanrasmussen on Saturday October 24, 2020 @04:40AM (#24877816)

as recent legal action shows companies benefit from being monopolies up until the point that they monopolize too much.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by tripzilch on Saturday October 24, 2020 @05:11AM (#24877948)

Yeah that's not some kind of general rule. This is because the US legal system in particular lets this happen. And in fact, the US legal system works so badly that it often still benefits companies long after they've monopolized too much, causing all sorts of damage to consumers and other companies that actually did nothing wrong.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by scaramanga on Saturday October 24, 2020 @12:31AM (#24876950)

Presumably as a condition of being allowed to hold their monopoly status and treat the (publicly developed) internet as a source of annuities.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by fnord123 on Saturday October 24, 2020 @02:35AM (#24877395)

Isn't streaming live video? It seems to me that youtube is exactly in archival video and hardly in streaming. But it's a big site so maybe a lot of people use it in ways I don't know.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by mulmen on Saturday October 24, 2020 @03:43AM (#24877627)

Streaming is not exclusively live video. Streaming is viewing the file as it downloads. As a stream. The alternative is what we did in the dark ages. Download the entire file before beginning playback.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by fnord123 on Saturday October 24, 2020 @04:12AM (#24877717)

Even in the dark ages (e.g. '97) we could watch the fragment of the avi videos as they downloaded.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by mulmen on Saturday October 24, 2020 @04:53AM (#24877869)

‘97 is classic antiquity. The dark ages came later, after civilization fell. We obtained WMVs from Kazaa because that’s all that was left.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by xdavidliu on Saturday October 24, 2020 @08:32AM (#24878791)

I myself preferred realplayer ("buffering...") and its more advanced cousin realplayer G2.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by richardfey on Saturday October 24, 2020 @07:29AM (#24878521)

From what I remember WMVs were mostly fake so I would never download them

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by michaelmrose on Saturday October 24, 2020 @02:31PM (#24881021)

WMVs can embed instructions on where to grab codecs or authorization to play the content in the multimedia. Back in the day if you played WMV with windows media player this could be used to pwn your computer.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by kevinhq on Saturday October 24, 2020 @05:26AM (#24877997)

damn. then I've been living through those ages. I feel old.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by jacquesm on Saturday October 24, 2020 @10:18AM (#24879343)

Because it is the right thing to do.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by anubioz on Saturday October 24, 2020 @01:06PM (#24880467)

Actually, you can host any amount of pirated video content on youtube, as long as its "visibility" set to "private"...

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by alfonsodev on Saturday October 24, 2020 @12:49PM (#24880346)

I'd love to be wrong here, but there are two separe things, content license and general YouTube terms of use, I think the terms prevent you from downloading any content, the fact that some content is licensed CC has to do more with being explicit, perhaps for displaying publicly or just informative, and I want to think they are leaving a bit of gray area for non abusive use(tons of downloads) , but you can see there is no download button, and if you build something that depends on it to certain scale they could go after you with terms of use, not license.

If you can prove me wrong with some link to where are we covered legally to download CC content from YouTube, it would make me very happy.

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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by usr1106 on Saturday October 24, 2020 @01:10PM (#24880487)

> I think the terms prevent you from downloading any content, the fact that some content is licensed CC has

Maybe you are right. If that is the case it is questionable whether contents produced with tax payers' money should exclusively hosted on Youtube to increase Google's income and restrict tax payers' rights.

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