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Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by sildur on Sunday October 18, 2020 @09:42AM (#24817817)
Not being able to set a "home" in maps unless I consent to be spied is another shitty behavior from Google.
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by amelius on Sunday October 18, 2020 @03:56PM (#24820600)
And another shitty thing is that I can't tell them to omit certain websites from my search results, while at the same time they insist they need my information "to improve my experience".
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by mcv on Friday October 23, 2020 @03:46AM (#24866980)
This is exactly it. There's nothing personalised about Google search results. It doesn't show what I want to see, it shows what they want to show me.

I'd like a search engine where I have some input on the ranking of sites shown to me. Some sites are crap and I never want to see them, other sites are ranked low but often have info I'm interested in.

Even just let me vote my search results up or down on relevance. I can vote on everything else, why not this? (Though ideally, I'd love to be able to devise my own algorithm for these things.)

Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by reaperducer on Sunday October 18, 2020 @05:15PM (#24821192)
Does DuckDuckGo have this capability? If it doesn't, it should, and that would be awesome.

Filter out: Pinterest, YouTube, WikiHow, and all the other garbage SEO farms.

Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by dastx on Sunday October 18, 2020 @06:46PM (#24821743)
Duckduckgo doesn't have builtin. It wouldn't be easy without essentially tracking you, which is the opposite of their claims.

However there is a browser extension you can install. It's either endorsed or developed by duckduckgo.

Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by flyinghamster on Sunday October 18, 2020 @07:56PM (#24822134)
I've found that I can do that in both DuckDuckGo and Google by adding, for instance: -pinterest -ebay -amazon -wikihow to my query.
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by zo1 on Monday October 19, 2020 @10:15AM (#24826544)
My theory is that such a feature would take away too much power from Google being able to control the "sorting" of the search results and it would pull away the veil of what they really do (or don't do). I think the bulk of the common search queries and information on the web (that isn't exotic and super-unique) is accumulated at any one point by a handful of websites (think 100-1000-10000?).

It's highly conceivable that one could get a completely novel and diverse web and search experience if we were to exclude those concentrated websites entirely from search results. At that point, google can no longer slide on just showing the top results from a tiny subset of their index, and would be forced to always show results from the entire index. As opposed to now where 99.9% of the time, they mostly show you results from that smaller subset and 0.1% of the time show you the rest (that is of course only if you have a super-specific query or you force them with some of their remaining search modifiers).

Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by darekkay on Monday October 19, 2020 @05:38PM (#24831314)
You can do this with uBlock Origin filters, e.g.:

  google.*##.g:has(a[href*=".geeksforgeeks.org"])
  google.*##.g:has(a[href*=".gitmemory.com"])
  google.*##.g:has(a[href*=".tutorialspoint.com"])
  google.*##.g:has(a[href*=".w3schools.com"])
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by blibble on Sunday October 18, 2020 @06:32PM (#24821656)
there used to be a google provided extension to do this, personal blocklist

they stopped providing it for some reason...

I liked it for blocking quora/pintrest/w3schools/...

Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by tim333 on Monday October 19, 2020 @05:01AM (#24824511)
Still there https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist...

I just tried it for W3schools and it worked

Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by blibble on Monday October 19, 2020 @11:13AM (#24827075)
that's some other random extension with a similar name whereas the original one was by Google themselves

personally I don't want some random third-party having the ability to exfiltrate my google cookie via an auto-updating extension

Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by darekkay on Monday October 19, 2020 @05:40PM (#24831329)
> personally I don't want some random third-party having the ability to exfiltrate my google cookie via an auto-updating extension

Driven by the same motivation, I've first adapted a userscript [1], but later replaced it with simple uBlock Origin filters:

  google.*##.g:has(a[href*=".w3schools.com"])
[1] https://github.com/darekkay/config-files/blob/master/userscr...
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by tim333 on Monday October 19, 2020 @04:58AM (#24824489)
You can do things like "brexit -express" in search or get an extension if you want that in all searches?
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by loa_in_ on Monday October 19, 2020 @05:10AM (#24824574)
Or more specific -site:quora.com
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by alyandon on Sunday October 18, 2020 @11:48AM (#24818700)
I worked around that by briefly enabling history, setting the Home address and then immediately turning history back off. Obviously not ideal but it solved the problem for me.
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by nuker on Sunday October 18, 2020 @05:11PM (#24821163)
> turning history back off

What does that achieve? They still receive your data, unless you are logged off and not using any google software.

Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by alyandon on Monday October 19, 2020 @09:37AM (#24826226)
What data? The location history feature in only on briefly while you are setting your Home location and once you turn it off again it stops collecting it. You also can go into your Google account and verify what information (if any) was collected in that window and delete it if you really feel that strongly about it.

This is really just Google using hostile UX to badger people into enabling location history and (in their eyes - hopefully) leaving it on.

Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by nuker on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @11:04AM (#24838142)
Google collects Android users’ locations even when location services are disabled

https://qz.com/1131515/google-collects-android-users-locatio...

Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by alyandon on Wednesday October 21, 2020 @01:49PM (#24850274)
That's distinctly different than the location/web history that Google pesters you to enable in order to set the Home location.
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by jankassens on Sunday October 18, 2020 @10:32PM (#24822879)
It might still be processed in aggregate, but they stop associating years of precise locations to your account.

I’d be surprised if they don’t follow that wish just for PR and legal reasons alone. The fewest people will actually opt out or if they do accidentally opt back in since the “enable web and location data” action appears anywhere from Maps to Google Home setup.

Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by svnpenn on Sunday October 18, 2020 @01:34PM (#24819576)
Just did this. Thanks
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by jannes on Sunday October 18, 2020 @10:21AM (#24818057)
Why would you want to tell Google where you live anyway? Can you not just save your home as a regular starred place?
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by robin_reala on Sunday October 18, 2020 @10:58AM (#24818285)
A better question is “why should Google be allowed to use your self-assigned home for purposes that you as a user haven’t consented to?”
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by codegladiator on Sunday October 18, 2020 @12:51PM (#24819172)
> user haven’t consented to

User consented to "personalization of experience", and that's all it is. Personalised ads.

Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by AlphaSite on Sunday October 18, 2020 @01:26PM (#24819485)
Those aren’t related things though?
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by codegladiator on Sunday October 18, 2020 @01:45PM (#24819673)
Tongue in cheek
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by codegladiator on Sunday October 18, 2020 @10:44AM (#24818197)
Google already knows anyways, using the map to set home is just for user convenience.
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by bt1a on Sunday October 18, 2020 @11:08AM (#24818381)
Yes. Imagine thinking you can hide your place of residence along with using google location services.
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by CameronNemo on Sunday October 18, 2020 @12:18PM (#24818923)
UnifiedNlp for the win :)

https://github.com/microg/UnifiedNlp

Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by amelius on Sunday October 18, 2020 @04:01PM (#24820650)
Do you think that solves the problem? What if 4G operators sell your information to data brokers, which then sell that information to Google?
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by CameronNemo on Sunday October 18, 2020 @07:40PM (#24822047)
Are 4G operators allowed to give away (or more likely sell) your data like that?
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by pixl97 on Monday October 19, 2020 @12:39AM (#24823381)
Yes
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by daveFNbuck on Sunday October 18, 2020 @11:38AM (#24818618)
I want to tell Google where I live so I can say "ok Google, navigate home" and get directions home without having to touch my phone. If there's a phrase that gets hands-free directions for starred items without having to say the whole address, Google doesn't make that easy to figure out.
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by mPReDiToR on Sunday October 18, 2020 @12:08PM (#24818861)
I know you said Hands Free.

My solution is a shortcut on my homescreen to my address, or somewhere close.

One click is worth it and for someone who pays more attention than most to the windscreen, safe enough for me.

Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by daveFNbuck on Sunday October 18, 2020 @02:20PM (#24819950)
Everyone who uses their phone while driving thinks they're one of the few who can do it safely, whether they're fully engrossed in a text conversation speeding down the freeway, or tapping an icon while stopped at a traffic light. Deep down, I think that too. That's why I can't give myself excuses to do it.
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by csunbird on Sunday October 18, 2020 @11:43AM (#24818661)
The location of the "Home" could be stored in the device locally.
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by zo1 on Sunday October 18, 2020 @01:52PM (#24819734)
Home and work are very "special" cases in that it's someplace most people regularly go to and from. So the app sends you personalized driving alerts/reminders, traffic updates, etc. There are definitely reasons for it, it's just not worth it to some. Others just have no idea that some of these nice goodies are helpful and not eerie and "privacy invading". So what if Google knows where I live and work? Frankly, that's something the government should know anyways, and it's failing abysmally judging by the amount of crime it's missing.
Re:Chrome exempts Google sites from user site data settings by briandear on Sunday October 18, 2020 @01:12PM (#24819351)
Apple Maps doesn’t do that thankfully.