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Re:Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server ... by pjmlp on Saturday October 17, 2020 @02:39AM (#24807890)
Quite easy, I have am been around for 30+ years in IT and have yet to find something that beats Jira in all its integration options, possibilities of formating tickets information, and flexibility to definie project specific workflows.

Given the option, I will always push for Jira, and associated Atlassian products.

Re:Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server ... by Aeolun on Saturday October 17, 2020 @07:47AM (#24809290)
> have yet to find something that beats Jira in all its integration options, possibilities of formating tickets information, and flexibility to definie project specific workflows

I think the reason you like it is exactly the reason a lot of people hate it.

Re:Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server ... by goatinaboat on Saturday October 17, 2020 @03:41PM (#24812569)
possibilities of formating tickets information, and flexibility to definie project specific workflows.

JIRA in its default state is fairly sane. People who hate it, usually with a white-hot burning passion, really hate the ham-fisted customisations their own organisation has done to it.

Re:Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server ... by mongol on Saturday October 17, 2020 @03:55AM (#24808245)
Indeed. Compare Jira with ServiceNow and it is like night and day. They serve different purposes, but Jira is friendly and SN almost hostile.
Re:Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server ... by user5994461 on Saturday October 17, 2020 @06:11AM (#24808933)
They're both tools to build forms. How horrible the forms are is really up to your organization. Whether they force you to fill 50 mandatory fields or not.
Re:Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server ... by xorcist on Saturday October 17, 2020 @01:34PM (#24811619)
You would think that, until you try to use ServiceNow.
Re:Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server ... by zxspectrum1982 on Saturday October 17, 2020 @05:25PM (#24813511)
You know ServiceNow is the de-facto standard in ITSM, don't you?
Re:Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server ... by b0tzzzzzzman on Saturday October 17, 2020 @04:02AM (#24808285)
This really does not say any thing outside you have 30 years+ in IT. What did Jira fix? I find what you said fully false given the context of the statements.

Why has this had adds playing every time I turn my radio on for the last 2 years as well..?

Re:Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server ... by pjmlp on Saturday October 17, 2020 @04:57AM (#24808605)
It means I have seen a lot in what concerns bug tracking and planning systems, from home grown cgi scripts with a basic form submit to enterprise deployment platforms like DOORS and ClearQuest, with dedicated IT support teams to just keep them running, and anything else that you can think of in between.
Re:Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server ... by leptons on Saturday October 17, 2020 @04:46AM (#24808538)
What do you think is better than Jira, and why?

I'm not the previous commenter, but I also have a similar 30+ years experience, and I've used quite a lot of project management software. I've seen Jira used poorly, and used quite efficiently for managing projects. My current job uses Jira and nobody in the company has ever expressed anything negative about Jira, and it's become quite nice to use. But again, I have seen some companies absolutely fail at Jira. YMMV.