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Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by AdamGibbins on Monday September 28, 2020 @07:45AM (#24615577)
Black cabs haven't been cash only since 2016, its now required to accept card.
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by maccard on Monday September 28, 2020 @08:09AM (#24615725)
And uber launched in london in 2012.

Meanwhile, the last time I got a black cab, the card machine was broken, and the driver "helpfully" offered to take a detour to an ATM, with the meter running, on my dime of course.

Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by alasdair_ on Monday September 28, 2020 @08:21AM (#24615819)
If you are ever in that situation again, just tell them you only have a credit card, nothing else.

Of course, only do that at the end of the ride.

They are not allowed to pick up passengers if the machine (or meter, or lots of other things) is broken. If it’s genuinely broken and you still want to pay, you can call the number displayed below the machine and pay over the phone.

Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by iso1631 on Monday September 28, 2020 @11:28AM (#24617672)
It's a corrupt industry that deserves to die
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by JAlexoid on Monday September 28, 2020 @01:55PM (#24619411)
It's not corrupt. It's a straight up mob, that moans about their "rights".
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by throwaway287391 on Monday September 28, 2020 @08:40AM (#24615986)
This is good to know for London specifically.

It's not as satisfying as yours but my general technique that works everywhere in the world where cabs are competing is: ask them if they take credit cards and their reader is working before you get into the cab. If they say no you find another cab. (In my experience they never say no anyway. But I learned to do this every single time I use a cab anywhere because this scam is so unbelievably common everywhere in the world.)

Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by iso1631 on Monday September 28, 2020 @11:30AM (#24617692)
My general technique is to use Uber, or pre-book a cab from the office. I have to admit I was stuck last time I was in Beijing, and of course nobody* takes cash in Beijing.
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by maccard on Monday September 28, 2020 @03:33PM (#24620397)
Yep indeed, I've asked before I got in. In this case I was getting a cab from the airport after a long haul flight. I'd normally use Uber but to try and speed things up I took a black cab because they're allowed use bus lanes and it was 9am.
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by maccard on Monday September 28, 2020 @03:38PM (#24620446)
Yeah as the other poster said, asking before getting in the cab is the other solution. Honestly the hassle of knowing it can happen, or wondering if yhe driver is going to be an ass about it makes it not worthwhile when I can tap a button and have an Uber appear for the same price, and _knoe_ my payment method (amex, to make things worse) will be accepted.
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by AdamGibbins on Monday September 28, 2020 @08:26AM (#24615863)
They're breaking TFL rules and shouldn't be operating in that case, congratulations you just got a free ride.
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by maccard on Monday September 28, 2020 @03:36PM (#24620427)
That's great to know the rules are on my side, but the last thing I want is an argument with a driver who has already decided he's breaking the rules. What's the dispute process for a black cab if I'm sitting outside my door with a £30 fare racking up and an angry driver? With Uber, I say "thanks" and type a message when I get back to the apartment and it's handled. With black cabs it looks like I have to phone them. Presumably I also need a receipt or at least a cab number too?
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by jonplackett on Monday September 28, 2020 @02:13PM (#24619622)
Or a very threatening taxi driver when you point that out...
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by jonplackett on Monday September 28, 2020 @10:29PM (#24623654)
I miss 2012.

I got on Uber really early and cashed in big time on those sweet £20 bonuses for EVERY referral.

I'd just stand up at the end of a party and shout "WHO WANTS TO GET HOME FOR FREE" and be set for taxis for the next month or so.

Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by kerng on Monday September 28, 2020 @09:25AM (#24616362)
Yes, Uber really helped change that. Pretty amazing, probably still would be cash only otherwise...
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by twic on Monday September 28, 2020 @07:59AM (#24615662)
The card machine is often mysteriously broken.
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by alasdair_ on Monday September 28, 2020 @08:22AM (#24615828)
Terrible shame that you’re mysteriously only carrying a credit card and no other form of payment then, isn’t it?

:)

Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by shawabawa3 on Monday September 28, 2020 @10:53AM (#24617254)
they used to pull this a lot - if they try it now call them out. They aren't allowed to operate with a broken card machine
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by smileysteve on Monday September 28, 2020 @12:55PM (#24618698)
> if they try it now call them out

This is a fun way to make tourists feel insecure.

Call them out, where you wait on a foreign police, prove your identity, file a report -- in a non native accent / language -- in the best case...

or in the worst case, where they'll take you where you don't want to go (or other cabs to pickup), potentially drive off in a dangerous way as you forcibly exit the vehicle, and blacklist you from other cars

-- all while you're hoping to make it to a hotel, airport, tour safely and on time.

Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by JAlexoid on Monday September 28, 2020 @01:56PM (#24619424)
Yep.

Most people forget that. Tourist places are a literal gold mine for fraudsters and other kinds of bad people.

Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by unicornfinder on Monday September 28, 2020 @05:06PM (#24621223)
Indeed and I don't know if it's just me but I genuinely feel like London has gotten a lot worse for fraudsters in recent years...
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by JAlexoid on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @12:58AM (#24624283)
Cooonsiderably.
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by renewiltord on Monday September 28, 2020 @01:26PM (#24619078)
I don’t want to call them out. I want to never have to call them out. With Uber I don’t have to so I’ll take that.
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by dx034 on Monday September 28, 2020 @07:52AM (#24615621)
Uber has been in London since before that, competition by Uber and other minicabs was probably a reason for card requirements for black cabs.
Re:Uber secures right to continue operating in London by mytailorisrich on Monday September 28, 2020 @08:15AM (#24615765)
Thanks to Uber...