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Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by bduerst on Sunday September 27, 2020 @10:07PM (#24612239)
>It's a Chinese company, they have privledges, not rights.

Neither Bytedance nor TikTok are Chinese companies.

It's true that Bytedance has buildings in Beijing, and a Chinese app (Taotiao) that is a Chinese subsidiary, but Bytedance is a Cayman's Islands company and TikTok doesn't even have servers inside China.

For purposes of the Chinese National Intelligence Law compelling the company to share user information with the CCP, Apple shares way more user data than TikTok does.

Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by halhod on Monday September 28, 2020 @05:06AM (#24614578)
Bytedance is a Chinese company. Look up VIE (variable interest entity) or "Sina Structure". Essentially the Cayman islands topco is a fudge that the Chinese government tolerates to facilitate non Chinese investment in Chinese companies, something which is not normally allowed. The structure is very common among Chinese tech companies. Instead of controlling the company by owning a majority of its shares, the "owners" of VIEs control their firms contractually. Paul Gilis' blog is very good on this https://www.chinaaccountingblog.com/weblog/explaining-vie-st...
Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by bduerst on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @12:53AM (#24624262)
VIEs are publicly trade (Bytedance is not) and that blogpost you linked is a decade old.
Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by jjulius on Sunday September 27, 2020 @10:37PM (#24612412)
>... Bytedance is a Cayman's Islands company...

Sure, it's incorporated in the Caymans, but we all know that that is just a technicality.

Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by Cthulhu_ on Monday September 28, 2020 @02:53AM (#24613680)
Like every other company operating from the Caymans; tax evasion.
Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by eru on Monday September 28, 2020 @03:43AM (#24614046)
If you keep everything legal, I think it's called tax optimisation.
Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by unishark on Sunday September 27, 2020 @11:35PM (#24612731)
Yet somehow the Chinese government can control the export of their technology and needs to approve any deal with a US company?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-unlikely-approve-ti...

Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by eru on Monday September 28, 2020 @03:44AM (#24614051)
Well, the US also controls lots of companies that are not American. Especially in finance. They were handing out American sanctions for European banks doing business with Iranian companies.
Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by unishark on Monday September 28, 2020 @07:29AM (#24615477)
I was referring to laws literally called "export controls" which regulate goods and technology that originate in China, not stretching the word to make a metaphorical case for ownership.
Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by fuzxi on Monday September 28, 2020 @01:07AM (#24613153)
If it does business in China, then it's beholden to Chinese law at the risk of no longer doing business in China.
Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by jachee on Monday September 28, 2020 @02:54AM (#24613690)
By that rationale, Apple and Microsoft are Chinese companies.