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Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by DCKing on Thursday September 17, 2020 @12:23PM (#24506580)
The 3DS, in particular the "New" models, I think are really recommended to pick up cheap. They are well built devices that are supremely hackable with access to lots of fun games.

The 3DS library is good despite somewhat lacking in diversity. But the 3DS also has native compatibility with the entire excellent DS library, and after hacking it can also run the entire great GBA library without emulation (like Matroshka dolls, the 3DS hardware includes the complete DSi hardware which in turn includes GBA hardware, and it has firmware support to access them both).

The old models emulate a lot of 8 and 16 bit consoles well, whereas the New models have nearly complete compatibility for 8 and 16 bit consoles and additionally can emulate some Playstation 1. Moreover, hacking the 3DS has become even more accessible due to recent newly found exploits. Still getting a lot of fun out of mine.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by city41 on Thursday September 17, 2020 @02:00PM (#24507844)
If picking up a 3DS, I highly recommend a "New" model. They include cameras that track your eyes, making the 3D effect much better.

It's true the 3D effect is just a gimmick, but it's a very neat one. Games like Metroid Samus Returns are much better in 3D IMO. The game feels like an actual mini diorama is in front of you.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by Fej on Thursday September 17, 2020 @07:58PM (#24511406)
The New 3DS/2DS enhancements don't stop at the camera & eye tracking - very few people, I think, ever understood the massive leap in specs. It's like the jump from the Game Boy to the Game Boy Color, except perhaps even bigger.

- CPU got double the ARM11 cores (now 4, was 2) at triple the clock speed (exactly)

- RAM doubled from 128 MB to 256 MB.

- VRAM upped by 2/3 to 10 MB, was 6 MB (which sounds like not a lot, which is true, but the top screen is 800x240 with an effective resolution of 400x240 and the viewport rendered twice from slightly different perspectives when 3D is enabled. Lower screen is 320x240, so it's not a lot of VRAM but it doesn't really need that much)

- Added an H.264 hardware decoder (yes, the original lacked one)

- NFC added, not big but an external reader/writer puck was required for the old 3DS models and amiibo is huge among a subset of fans

- ...Wi-Fi still maxes out at 802.11g (come on now)

The hardware gap is great enough that the New 3DS got a Switch port (Fire Emblem Warriors) and a Wii port with the 3D enabled (Xenoblade 3D). It can also be used for Twitch/YouTube streaming, as it has enough horsepower (and apparently extra hardware, but I'm not sure which is required; maybe someone else can enlighten us in this respect) to just dump the display buffer over Wi-Fi to a PC. Even with the 802.11g deficiency.

It's a great console with a huge library of games, especially with DS backwards compatibility, and with mods (all are vulnerable) it's also a capable and very portable emulation machine. Cheaper as well (although not necessarily significantly) than even the Switch Lite, and more moddable (unless you want to shell out for a Switch modchip).

Nintendo could have sold many more but botched the name and the marketing, like the Wii U. But it's worth a look.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by Wowfunhappy on Thursday September 17, 2020 @08:24PM (#24511608)
> very few people, I think, ever understood the massive leap in specs.

Because it was only ever used by a handful of games!

When the New 3DS launched, I expected it to be something of a stealth new console generation. The trajectory would been like the Gameboy Color; at launch, games could still be played in Black & White on the original gameboy, but it didn’t take long for games to drop that support so they could truly make use of the GBC’s superior internals.

But of course, this did not happen.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by hannob on Thursday September 17, 2020 @02:32PM (#24508280)
Admittedly I only played one game for a while on a borrowed 3DS (Super Mario 3D Land), but I quickly thought the best thing about the 3D effect is that you can turn it off.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by zapzupnz on Thursday September 17, 2020 @05:45PM (#24510328)
If that was on an old 3DS, that was probably true. On the "New" 3DS, though, with the additional eye tracking to make sure the 3D effect is stable, it's superb.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by nsxwolf on Friday September 18, 2020 @09:47AM (#24516710)
I played through the entirety of the Metroid 2 remake with 3D on on my New 3DS, and it was dazzling. No discomfort or headaches, just a constant sensation of disbelief that this can even work without some kind of glasses on.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by echelon on Thursday September 17, 2020 @10:03PM (#24512216)
Does the eye tracking work with older games, or is the 3D baked into the game engines?
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by mewse on Friday September 18, 2020 @12:10AM (#24512908)
Yes, the eye tracking works with old games just as well as with new ones; it seems to require no software support; it just does its thing, dynamically adjusting the parallax barrier so that the left and right frames provided by the game will be seen by the correct eyes, even if those eyes are off-center, moving, or etc.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by post_break on Thursday September 17, 2020 @05:46PM (#24510335)
Just the way you worded this, leading me right up to the end of the comment, made me laugh pretty loud.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by hackmiester on Thursday September 17, 2020 @10:12PM (#24512254)
For what it's worth, it isn't a gimmick to me. I have really terrible eyes, and it's actually the first time I've seen in 3D up close... ever. VR headsets don't work on me, and my eyes can only see 3D at a distance.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by Tiktaalik on Thursday September 17, 2020 @02:10PM (#24507996)
Yeah some titles use the 3D much better than others. Some early launch windows titles kind of do it weirdly and poorly. Pilotwings for example feels too strong.

Some of the best would be yeah Metroid and Luigi's Mansion 2. The 3D gives a real "diorama" feel.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by Wowfunhappy on Thursday September 17, 2020 @08:30PM (#24511648)
Pilotwings looks great in 3D if you actually make use of the 3D slider to adjust to your comfort level, instead of just pushing it all the way up.

I think later games realized people weren’t actually going to do that, and effectively optimized their visuals for the highest setting.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by justinweiss on Thursday September 17, 2020 @02:09PM (#24507963)
Absolutely agree. I just got into 3DS development last year and it's been such an exciting development experience. The open-source tools are excellent (even supporting remote debugging!), and the system hits that sweet spot between being powerful enough to build interesting things and taking real work to make those things fast.

Over the last year or so I've been squeezing individual fps's of performance out of the PSX emulator and it's been some of the most fun hobby programming I've done in a long time.

Plus you can write for a platform with a 3D screen! How cool is that?

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by read_if_gay_ on Thursday September 17, 2020 @07:42PM (#24511303)
> I just got into 3DS development last year and it's been such an exciting development experience

That sounds really cool. Do you have any pointers for getting started?

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by justinweiss on Thursday September 17, 2020 @11:20PM (#24512640)
devkitpro (https://devkitpro.org/) is the toolchain and base libraries, and sets up a package manager for downloading others.

For the basic stuff you can use the usual C libraries. I picked up a lot by reading and tweaking the examples, which are installed along with the toolchain: https://github.com/devkitPro/3ds-examples

libctru, installed with devkitpro (https://libctru.devkitpro.org/) is where a lot of the platform-specific APIs live. There are also some higher-level libraries built on top of it

A good understanding of ARM will take you a long way. A lot of what documentation there is (especially on 3dbrew.org) assumes you understand the terms and general architecture of an older ARM platform. This book https://www.brucesmith.info/arm-a32-assembly-language/ was great for building enough understanding that I could understand most of the official reference manuals. From those, I found the ARMv7 reference manual and the ARM11 MPCore Technical Reference Manual to be the most useful, and I refer back to the ARM instruction set reference card a lot.

Besides that, it's reading and modifying the source of other projects, and trying things out. If you look at homebrew apps like ctrQuake (https://github.com/masterfeizz/ctrQuake), you'll notice there's usually not a lot of platform-specific code -- most is just standard C / C++.

Hope that helps. Just like anything, it's knowing enough to get started (a toolchain, some C, and some examples) and using your questions and ideas to draw you into the next thing to learn.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by read_if_gay_ on Friday September 18, 2020 @03:29AM (#24513952)
Thanks! Lots of good stuff, I really appreciate it.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by mintplant on Thursday September 17, 2020 @03:57PM (#24509216)
It also still supports the entirety of the original DS homebrew scene, including my favorite flashcard: the SuperCard DSTWO [0], which includes an onboard CPU and RAM for running software that's more powerful than the host DS! You could feel the chip bulging out underneath the label, and the cartridges went into the slot with an odd "squish" because of that. A ridiculous yet beautiful piece of engineering.

[0] http://eng.supercard.sc/

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by komali2 on Thursday September 17, 2020 @12:55PM (#24507015)
Yes! Don't forget you also get GameBoy Color and GameBoy games. IMO this massive library (N3DS, 3DS, DSi, DS, GBA, GBC, GB, SNES, NES) has at least 10 "must play before death" games in them (for people that care a lot about videogames, anyway).

Of course all of this can also be achieved on a PC with a simple 10$ amazon controller and free emulators, if you're comfortable pirating games.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by komali2 on Thursday September 17, 2020 @03:02PM (#24508604)
Edit: You're right, that was rude of me lmao. This is an UNORDERED LIST:

1. Super Mario Bros 3

2. The Legend of Zelda (1986)

3. Super Metroid (1994)

4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

5. Super Castlevania

6. Pokemon: Silver/Gold

7. Advance Wars: Dual Strike

8. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (tecccchnically an n64 game though) (Majora's Mask would make this list if the DS version wasn't a butchered shadow of the original)

9. Metroid: Fusion

10. Like... ANY of the billion Final Fantasies available between NES and N3DS

edit: 11. Mario 64 baybbeeeeeeeee

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by jldugger on Thursday September 17, 2020 @03:40PM (#24509036)
So many questions. Like, do you really need pokemon to live?

And why specifically Super Castlevania, which is regarded as kind of a garbage castlevania (the player sprite is bigger so you get less of a heads up on whats ahead, and it's not part of the "metrovania" pantheon).

Why Fusion and Super Metroid?

Does the original LoZ hold up as well as say Link's Awakening?

Why are there only 3 companies represented on this list? Did Capcom run over your pet dog?

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by LukeShu on Friday September 18, 2020 @01:05AM (#24513182)
> Does the original LoZ hold up as well as say Link's Awakening?

If you're only going to play one LoZ, play A Link to the Past. (I think "play the 3rd game" is pretty good advice for a lot of Nintendo series.) ALttP is when they figured out the formula; I played it after I played most of the others, and after playing it every other LoZ (at least the 2D ones) all kinda felt like a copy of ALttP, like they're each just remaking a different aspect of it (and adding in their own little gimmick).

The original LoZ holds up, but is a very different game than the later games. The world is empty for you, there are no towns, just wilderness; it's being a kid exploring the woods behind your house, pretending you're alone in the world. The loss of sword beams when you take damage made me feel that taking damage is getting hurt, rather than just some meter in the corner of the screen that I need to keep up; more so than any other game.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by simlevesque on Thursday September 17, 2020 @04:21PM (#24509495)
Metroid Fusion in my opinion was the king of Metroidvanias for a really long time. It achieved perfection.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by jldugger on Thursday September 17, 2020 @05:06PM (#24509972)
I think there's a number of people upset it doesn't have any sequence breaks, is super linear, and much of the exploration is of the "guess and check" variety. https://youtu.be/FsZ9Bb4IW5s?t=1315
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by simlevesque on Friday September 18, 2020 @04:26PM (#24521538)
> doesn't have any sequence breaks

I would never hate on a game for this.

> super linear

point taken, but speedrunners would say otherwise.

> much of the exploration is of the "guess and check" variety.

I finished the game as a 10 year old so I think it wasn't too easy or too hard.

To each his own !

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by jldugger on Sunday September 20, 2020 @10:01PM (#24539063)
>I would never hate on a game for this.

I think "achieved perfection" was the bar you set =) And Super Metroid set the bar quite high.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by matwood on Thursday September 17, 2020 @06:21PM (#24510683)
It could be nostalgia or me remembering incorrectly, but Super Metroid felt like a shift to more story telling and environmental setting. When I first played it as a kid, in a dark room it was a bit scary. I felt as the character more than any other game I had played prior.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by jldugger on Thursday September 17, 2020 @09:53PM (#24512161)
sorry, i wasn't clear: the emphasis was on _and_. pick one!
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by matwood on Friday September 18, 2020 @07:38AM (#24515474)
For me, easy choice - Super Metroid.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by city41 on Thursday September 17, 2020 @06:57PM (#24510971)
Super Castlevania is quite highly regarded by the Castlevania community. It's not the best Castlevania (Rondo of Blood is), but it's up there.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by jldugger on Thursday September 17, 2020 @09:54PM (#24512168)
Really? It didn't even make polygon's top 10. https://www.polygon.com/features/2018/10/26/18011828/best-ca...
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by city41 on Thursday September 17, 2020 @10:32PM (#24512360)
I do respect Jeremy Parish. But as a huge Castlevania fan myself I find that list pretty surprising. Obviously there is a lot of subjectivity in something like this. But I would argue Super Castlevania is better than many of the games he put above it.

And to be totally fair, it's true SC is clunky and dated in several regards (it was a very early SNES title and it shows...) So maybe Jeremy dings it on those aspects more than others do. But I would argue it makes up for a lot of that in atmosphere, style and uniqueness.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by komali2 on Friday September 18, 2020 @11:01AM (#24517624)
Mostly cause I had to have a short list. I think you should play links awakening too lol.

Fusion is lit but you super metroid is like... The OG metroidvania.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by ck425 on Thursday September 17, 2020 @03:49PM (#24509130)
Don't forget Fire Emblem. I bought my 3DS entirely for Fire Emblem.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by skyyler on Thursday September 17, 2020 @03:07PM (#24508652)
I'm very curious as to why you didn't like MM3D.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by komali2 on Friday September 18, 2020 @10:59AM (#24517599)
They messed with the acceleration algorithm to where it was almost impossible for me to solve the lily pad jump puzzle.

They tweaked that fight where you chase the big monster around an endless forest hallway to be ABSURDLY easy.

On that note, same for the originally TERRIFYING jungle warrior fight.

Oh and the changed swimming mechanic was fucked, although I just read that they fixed it maybe?

Here's a video I think captured it well https://youtu.be/653wuaP0wzs

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by komali2 on Friday September 18, 2020 @11:37AM (#24518133)
Oh shit I forgot donkey kong country!!!
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by echelon on Thursday September 17, 2020 @01:13PM (#24507233)
> has at least 10 "must play before death" games

Could you make some recommendations? I'd be very interested in your list.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by lghh on Thursday September 17, 2020 @01:50PM (#24507707)
Here's my rough list of games that you can play on a 3DS that are not necessarily 3DS games that I think are "must play" type games. Does not include all games that should be on the list.

1. LoZ: Ocarina of Time 2. Super Mario 64 (ds version) 3. Donkey Kong Country Returns 4. LoZ: A Link To The Past 5. Shin Megami Tensei: IV (maybe not "must", but you should give it a shot) 6. Earthbound 7. Super Mario World

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by Wowfunhappy on Thursday September 17, 2020 @09:38PM (#24512051)
> Donkey Kong Country Returns

Pretty please, play the Wii version of this! You can use Dolphin if you want.

The 3DS port halved the framerate from 60 fps to 30 fps, and it makes a big difference! At 30 fps, the game is much too difficult—unless you play on the "adjusted" difficulty they added, and I'm pretty sure I know why they adjusted it.

Also, while I'm here I'm going to add on Kid Icarus: Uprising. I know the controls were divisive, but if you can adapt, it's a really unique and well-done action adventure. From the creator of Smash Brothers!

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by northern-lights on Thursday September 17, 2020 @02:30PM (#24508257)
And a few Pokemon ones too with Emerald at the top of that list.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by Sulamitachica on Thursday September 17, 2020 @04:03PM (#24509286)
Oooh yes i remember playing emerald and it being my favorite, among sapphire
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by glouwbug on Thursday September 17, 2020 @02:27PM (#24508230)
Foundational list. Nothing tops Ocarina of Time
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by pcdoodle on Friday September 18, 2020 @08:57AM (#24516110)
2D Link is best Link.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by ndesaulniers on Thursday September 17, 2020 @08:02PM (#24511434)
For GBA:

1/2. Metroid Fusion & Zero Mission

3/4. Advanced Wars 1 & 2

5/6. Golden Sun 1 & 2

7. Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced

8. Kirby and the Amazing Mirror

9. The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap

10. Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga

There were also 3 great Castlevania's, 3 great Sonic Advanced, 2 or 3 Fire Emblems, I enjoyed the 3 Dragon Ball Z RPGs, I enjoyed the newer Pokemon Emerald and throwback FireRed (QoL improvements). Final Fantasy 6 is available.

Really, a flash cart was very much a worthwhile investment (and a larger capacity battery) for my gameboy micro. Would recommend EZ-Flash IV.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by komali2 on Thursday September 17, 2020 @03:02PM (#24508606)
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by tasogare on Thursday September 17, 2020 @01:09PM (#24507187)
I’ve played a GBA and a DS game on emulator and this is far from the real experience, especially for the DS one. The new 3DS, DS lite and GBA SP are such nice hardware it’s part of the experience.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by ewams on Thursday September 17, 2020 @02:50PM (#24508489)
Oh come now! You can't say 10 games you must play before you die and leave us hanging!
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by FillardMillmore on Thursday September 17, 2020 @01:28PM (#24507410)
I'll be disappointed if Super Metroid doesn't make this list of yours.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by tolbish on Thursday September 17, 2020 @01:37PM (#24507532)
Super Metroid is available on Switch Online. Super Mario RPG would be my pick from here that is almost impossible to find legally.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by jaypeg25 on Thursday September 17, 2020 @02:08PM (#24507949)
I wasn't big into RPGs growing up, and I didn't even have a Super Nintendo, but I bought a Mini SNES last year and gave it a shot...I was floored at how enjoyable the game is. I got pretty deep into it but life and work and everything got in the way, and now it's been so long that I want to go back to it but would be completely lost...but I'm looking forward to starting over again when I've got some free time to dig into it again.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by mattl on Thursday September 17, 2020 @04:46PM (#24509762)
Super Mario RPG is on the SNES Classic.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by fossuser on Thursday September 17, 2020 @04:49PM (#24509794)
I was confused by this article because the 3DS has been unavailable for months now (except for random editions from Amazon sellers for above MSRP).

The main change seems to be them removing the 3DS page from the Nintendo website? My impression was that they stopped making them long ago and were only making new versions of the 2DS (which kind of defeats the entire purpose of the device).

They also don't make enough Switch consoles to meet demand, and they don't update basic things with their software (friend codes really?)

I'm not sure what the culture is like at Nintendo, but there's a lot of low hanging fruit that would make things a lot better (and make them a lot more money at the same time).

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by devindotcom on Thursday September 17, 2020 @04:55PM (#24509845)
I don't think the 2DS defeats the purpose of the device. The 3D aspect was by design only used in optional ways by nearly all developers and the 2DS as a great, cheaper, lighter alternative to the original. If anything it makes the handheld more focused and useful by stripping away something that was never really effective to begin with.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by fossuser on Thursday September 17, 2020 @05:27PM (#24510158)
In my case I was trying to get a gift for a friend who plays a lot of monster hunter world and the 3D apparently helps with gameplay since being able to sense the depth makes it easier to fight the monsters.

By “defeat the purpose” I just meant that a version of the 3DS without the 3D part isn’t really the same thing.

I generally find Nintendo the company frustrating to interact with when trying to buy things from them.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by takeda on Thursday September 17, 2020 @05:49PM (#24510366)
if 2DS was foldable I would buy it instead of 3DS. Didn't really care about the 3D.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by EddieRingle on Thursday September 17, 2020 @05:58PM (#24510473)
The New 2DS is the foldable version.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by fzzzy on Thursday September 17, 2020 @07:02PM (#24510999)
Highly recommended, it's great hardware.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by takeda on Friday September 18, 2020 @01:08AM (#24513194)
Neat, won't buy it since aleady have 3DS, I really wish they created it earlier.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by city41 on Thursday September 17, 2020 @06:51PM (#24510921)
Friend codes and generally Nintendo's online service being poor is a conscious decision. They really don't want players chatting with each other, as they want it to be a safe place for children.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by fossuser on Thursday September 17, 2020 @08:28PM (#24511639)
This is just an excuse for bad design.

You can make good online services that are still safe for children (and they wouldn't have friend codes).

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by Tepix on Thursday September 17, 2020 @03:45PM (#24509087)
Personally I think the PS Vita is just as good, if not an even better value. You can get lightly used ones for around 80-100€ and they have a very nice OLED and a fast CPU. They can emulate pretty much anything up to PS1/N64.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by Gengar on Thursday September 17, 2020 @05:11PM (#24510019)
PS Vita game library is nowhere near as strong though. It is another cool cheap device for homebrew.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by anotherman554 on Thursday September 17, 2020 @05:37PM (#24510261)
Vita runs PSP games and PS1 games, so it's a strong library if you don't have a PSP already.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by JansjoFromIkea on Thursday September 17, 2020 @07:56PM (#24511391)
I would say a DSi XL is the best choice for original DS games though, you get a larger screen with the exact same resolution as DS games play in and you get possibly the nicest and most durable of Nintendo's portable designs. The DSi as of last year is pretty hackable in itself too.

I got one basically as a bonus in an ebay auction a few months back along with a 3DS I was getting for a friend and I've found myself playing original DS games on it more than I ever did on my own New 3DS XL so I was almost certainly picking up on the iffiness of the upscaling to fill the screen.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by DCKing on Friday September 18, 2020 @07:16AM (#24515330)
The DSi is great too of course, but if the scaling of DS games is a problem for you on a 3DS you can display the games unscaled/letterboxed by launching the game (or TwilightMenu) while holding Select or Start. I too much prefer displaying them without the bar scaling. The same trick works for Virtual Console games including GBA titles.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by jerryoftheyear on Thursday September 17, 2020 @01:53PM (#24507737)
Seconding this, the platform can be blown wide open and has an amazing library of both homebrew and official games.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by NwtnsMthd on Thursday September 17, 2020 @02:03PM (#24507887)
I've recently been eyeing the 3DS, do you have a specific model that you would recommend over others?
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by deergomoo on Thursday September 17, 2020 @05:42PM (#24510303)
I’m not OP but my favourite is the regular sized New 3DS. However this model initially only came out in Europe and Japan, and came to the US later, so depending on your location you may find it more difficult to find than the XL model.

But it’s the ideal size IMO, and it has swappable faceplates and Super Famicom coloured buttons, if you’re into that kind of thing.

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by phaedrus441 on Thursday September 17, 2020 @07:19PM (#24511136)
Just a heads-up, you can get a great-condition 3DS (or 2DS) cheaply from Nintendo directly: https://store.nintendo.com/nintendo-3ds-2ds/refurbished.html
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by dTal on Thursday September 17, 2020 @01:04PM (#24507138)
Beyond playing games, can you use them for anything else? How hard is it to program them?
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by wgetch on Thursday September 17, 2020 @01:34PM (#24507492)
While the majority of existing homebrew are either games or emulators, the systems are not limited to just playing games and there are a few options for programming them. devkitPro[0] provides a cross-compiling toolchain for 3ds homebrew development, if you are comfortable with C/C++ it is not all that difficult to program on the platform. There are several "portlibs" including SDL (SDL1 not SDL2 unfortunately) provided by devkitPro, which come in handy if you don't want to learn low level 3ds-specific APIs. There are also some homebrew game engines[1] that allow running Lua-based programs, though I haven't tried these myself.

[0] https://devkitpro.org/wiki/Getting_Started [1] https://www.3dbrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_Applications#Game_Engin...

Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by aviraldg on Thursday September 17, 2020 @01:44PM (#24507634)
A 3D graphing calculator would be quite cool, I think.
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by arthurcolle on Thursday September 17, 2020 @03:31PM (#24508917)
I have the HP Prime that is basically this. The programming language is pretty terrible but you can get pretty impressive 3D plots (with touchscreen as well!) if you install a plugin
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by aviraldg on Thursday September 17, 2020 @04:44PM (#24509747)
It has a 3D display like the 3DS?
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by arthurcolle on Friday September 18, 2020 @08:52PM (#24523672)
No but it shows a 3D plot. Want to see a photo?
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by gowld on Thursday September 17, 2020 @05:02PM (#24509933)
What's a good website for this scene?
Re:Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade by elsonrodriguez on Thursday September 17, 2020 @06:42PM (#24510850)
https://gbatemp.net/categories/nintendo-3ds-discussions.198/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/3dshacks/ for discussion. The best resource for jailbreaking your 3DS would be here: https://3ds.hacks.guide