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Re:Apple Fitness+ by 88840-8855 on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @02:43PM (#24485073)
I disagree.

YET ANOTHER feature that is linked to ONE SINGLE account. If apple decides to block your account, everything is gone. This happened some time ago to my microsoft account - everything gone. And why? Because I have uploaded (automatically) a nude picture of my gf to their cloud, it was detected by their algorithm and my account was locked.

I had to communicate with microsoft by a PAPER LETTER(!) to understand WHY my account was locked in the first place and that they would not care to unlock it.

This happened 3 years ago. Their policy might differ today regarding nude content. But for me it was a shock and a lesson.

Re:Apple Fitness+ by dang on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @08:09PM (#24488170)
Please don't use uppercase for emphasis. If you want to emphasize a word or phrase, put asterisks around it and it will get italicized.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Re:Apple Fitness+ by threatofrain on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @03:18PM (#24485543)
Are nude photos not permitted on iCloud? With the ubiquity of iPhones, it's difficult to believe iCloud isn't filled with nude photos.
Re:Apple Fitness+ by DevKoala on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @08:04PM (#24488140)
They are permitted. My girlfriend and I are often long distance and we share an album. I didn’t know Microsoft had such bogus restrictions.
Re:Apple Fitness+ by infogulch on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @11:50PM (#24489377)
The anecdotal evidence is helpful, but it doesn't fully answer the question that GP really wanted answered: Is it Apple's policy to allow nude photos in iCloud?

Apple is known to start enforcing broad rules in new ways without notice. Unless they've made a positive statement confirming that such photos are allowed (I don't know, seems unlikely), I would assume that it's possible for Apple to turn on a nudity classification ML on everyone's photos tomorrow and ban anyone that matches just like Microsoft. I also think that Apple seems to respect user privacy / rights better than Microsoft (though not so much developers). So you might say it's unlikely, but my point is that it's possible; act accordingly. Is it your personal account and you have a backup and you don't think the risk is worth the hassle? Sure, do whatever you want. But is this Apple account even associated with the developer account of an app that makes your living? I would think twice.

Re:Apple Fitness+ by angrais on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @01:33AM (#24489845)
Can you describe this procedure more?

For example, did you use the same album each time? Did you both uploaded to the album or only her or you? Did you keep the previous photos in the album? How'd you feel seeing yourself in the album?

Curious as I've never heard anyone shading albums ... Makes sense of course.

Re:Apple Fitness+ by chromedev on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @03:25PM (#24485633)
Don't you remember when all those nude celebrity iCloud photos got leaked?
Re:Apple Fitness+ by chromedev on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @06:39PM (#24487552)
Re:Apple Fitness+ by newyorker2 on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @03:54PM (#24485983)
Ah yes, those pesky Microsoft-Apple™ cloud guidelines.
Re:Apple Fitness+ by georgespencer on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @07:52PM (#24488046)
It can be really tough to see beyond one's own isolated experience, but you are expressing something analogous to a refusal to fly on any airline because one airline lost your ticket. Whilst there's certainly a risk of your ticket being lost, as you found, for 99.99% of people tickets work just fine and are never lost.
Re:Apple Fitness+ by gumby on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @10:00PM (#24488826)
It’s also a pain for shared resources, e.g. Apple TV
Re:Apple Fitness+ by mike_d on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @03:21PM (#24485591)
Was your girlfriend of age?

To the best of my knowledge the only thing Microsoft searches for and actions in user uploaded files is content that hits against PhotoDNA. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/photodna

Re:Apple Fitness+ by realityking on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @04:41PM (#24486466)
From what I understand, PhotoDNA is used to recognize _known_ images of child exploitation. It will never recognize any pictures a user takes themselves, even if they show child exploitation, unless that photo’s hash makes it into Microsoft’s database.
Re:Apple Fitness+ by mike_d on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @02:19PM (#24495614)
We don't know the parent posters exact relationship status. It could have been an online catfish and the person on the other end sent photos of a minor they found online.
Re:Apple Fitness+ by thdrdt on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @03:35PM (#24485752)
Does it matter? As a parent I might upload a private nude picture of my kids which is perfectly fine.
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Re:Apple Fitness+ by yomly on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @07:44PM (#24487995)
Depends on your relationship with cloud storage:

10-20 years ago it was pretty normal to keep and show off nude photos of your kids. I've seen plenty of nude photos of my friends from "a heatwave in the garden + paddling pool" when they were a toddler.

There's nothing sexual or nude about it unless you want to make it that way. For 99.x% percent of us, having one of two genders is as universal as it comes...

Re:Apple Fitness+ by Proziam on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @08:06PM (#24488146)
Every parent I know (and I'm 28) has photos of their kids running around doing generic kid things while nude, or making weird faces while playing in the bathtub.

The practice finding its way into the modern cloud is completely unsurprising.

Re:Apple Fitness+ by varispeed on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @03:48PM (#24485929)
It is no longer private if you upload it to cloud.
Re:Apple Fitness+ by 88840-8855 on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @03:43PM (#24485860)
My gf is 29.
Re:Apple Fitness+ by samatman on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @04:00PM (#24486051)
pretty personal question there bud!

let me point out that PhotoDNA can't check a woman's drivers license, and getting shut out of your account because you love an A cup is pretty dismal stuff.

Re:Apple Fitness+ by Sebguer on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @07:37PM (#24487948)
photodna compares to hashes so this is a weird take.