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Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by mensetmanusman on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @09:46PM (#24349223)
My 5 year old uses our first iPad which is over 10 years old now. The keyboard UI from then is still faster than my iPad pro keyboard UI because Steve Jobs valued the priority of that in the stack :)
Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by ksec on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:49PM (#24349812)
I think Steve Jobs have the same latency sensitive condition as some of us do. Getting irritated when things aren't the speed they are suppose to be.
Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by Lio on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @02:33AM (#24350599)
I have an old Panasonic “smart” TV with a daft animated but glacially slow UI.

You can tell the execs that approved that were probably impressed watching someone else demo it but probably never used it themselves.

Jobs would have spotted it was rubbish immediately.

Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by jonplackett on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @05:09AM (#24351368)
OK so this is a partial tangent - but I have a washing machine that annoys the hell out of me for this exact same reason (I know washing machine UI is not a hot topic usually but it damn well should be!)

It has a dial on the front to choose settings. Potentially a great idea to skip quick to the one I want - BUT the damn thing can only detect 1 step of change about every half second. So if you fast-turn it 4 clicks, it still only moves one step. So you have to stand there, slowly turning it, click, click, click, click....

The dial is the biggest design feature on there. Massive. Right in the middle. Bright lights all around it. But they couldn't even be bothered to make it solve the one problem it was there to do.

Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by shadyMrPatch on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @11:24AM (#24354132)
I'm getting angry even reading about it.

It's the kind of thing that'd make you reject purchasing it if only you'd thought to have tested that specific bit of it before buying it.

Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by jonplackett on Thursday September 03, 2020 @04:30AM (#24361939)
I knew hacker news was the right place to share this story. Only here people would understand the pain I am in!
Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by Shared404 on Thursday September 03, 2020 @01:21PM (#24366315)
I am almost a day late... But yes.

Honestly, I wish that they would make appliances with physical controls as opposed to digital. At least those are easier to fix/mod on your own.

Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by jonplackett on Friday September 04, 2020 @05:49AM (#24373418)
I always think that about modern SLR cameras. They took a series of brilliant, instantly accessible physical dials (around the lens for aperture, on the top for exposure) and replaced them with menus and buttons on a tiny screen. WHY? How is that progress?

I think if someone did a kickstarter for a very simple physical buttoned digital camera it would do very well.

Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by exikyut on Thursday September 03, 2020 @11:13PM (#24371362)
Or there was even a demo unit in the first place...
Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by exikyut on Thursday September 03, 2020 @11:19PM (#24371390)
Open it up, take the PCB out, figure out how the dial sensor works (the dial is probably just repeatedly nudging a contact out of the way), and thennn... program an Arduino to be a giant input buffer (that slowly replays), and wire the Arduino between the dial and the rest of the machine. :D

Caveat: said Arduino may need to sit between the rest of the buttons as well, in case inputs must be given in sequence.

Possible benefit: switch the Arduino for something from the ESP family, and you could feed instructions to the machine over Wi-Fi or Bluetooth. (Which could take the form of a dedicated wireless button panel above the machine with macros for frequently-used options.)

(Hmm. I can tell there's some over-optimization in here, but I'm not sure _where_.)

Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by ericd on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @12:25AM (#24349964)
I’d be pretty surprised, because I feel like the UI in OS X has always had more latency than Windows. Especially noticeable with the mouse with acceleration, but also throughout the rest of the UI. This was my biggest gripe in switching to OS X.
Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by Gravityloss on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @02:23AM (#24350549)
Yeah. Mouse was always way better in Windows and Linux. Finder browsing files has also always been laggy. Now with the latest macos versions it's ridiculous, if you take a screenshot, it takes about a minute for the file to appear.
Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by jki275 on Thursday September 03, 2020 @02:55PM (#24367418)
Screen shots appear instantly in macOS, I'm not sure what machine you're on.

Finder browsing files is much faster in macOS, Windows scans the entire directory with defender every time you click on it before it allows you to sort it or interact with it. That can take several minutes on some of my directories.

The mouse tracking model in Windows is somewhat different, and a bit more responsive, but there are multiple third party extensions to macOS the make its model exactly the same as the Windows model.

Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by crubier on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @01:10PM (#24355309)
What the heck are you taking about lol
Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by bangonkeyboard on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:04PM (#24349310)
They also ran surprisingly long, particularly the die-shrunk iPad 2: https://i.imgur.com/ELyFwFu.png
Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by OkGoDoIt on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:29PM (#24349728)
Indeed, I remember being particularly impressed by iPad battery life in the early days. I would recharge maybe once a week of light usage. Now I’ve got to plug in nearly every single night.
Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by danilocesar on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @03:38AM (#24350937)
I remember that too.

But I also remember not having background processes. It's a trade of.

Re:Nvidia Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs by distances on Thursday September 03, 2020 @02:17PM (#24366976)
I charge my close to 5 years old Pixel C tablet about once a week. Light usage, mostly some streaming up to an hour per day. Not sure if your light usage means something else though.