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Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by wirthjason on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:17AM (#24341951)

    “She charges up to $40 for lingerie pictures and videos or for content that implies nudity; $165 for topless photos and $200 for nude images and videos.”
I don’t get it. Who has the income to drop hundreds of dollars on pictures like this?!?!

The internet is filled with tons of free images and videos. I can’t see the point. I guess the “item” being sold isn’t just the image/video but rather the “interaction” and maybe personalization.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by matwood on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:37AM (#24342213)
> I don’t get it. Who has the income to drop hundreds of dollars on pictures like this?!?!

People drop hundreds and thousands of dollars on in-game coins. There is a lot more money floating around than you realize.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by fxtentacle on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @05:13PM (#24347126)
Didn't one of the android guys get into trouble for paying attractive girls a full time salary in exchange for them doing what he tells them to do? How's that any different from paying a girl on OnlyFans to produce a custom nude photo? I presume both is more about demonstrating power than about the value of the end result.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by Something1234 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @07:54PM (#24348507)
Anyone have more details on this?
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by valleyer on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @09:41PM (#24349199)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/technology/google-sexual-...

> The suit included a screenshot of an August 2015 email Mr. Rubin sent to one woman. “You will be happy being taken care of,” he wrote. “Being owned is kinda like you are my property, and I can loan you to other people.”

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by fxtentacle on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @05:02AM (#24351334)
Great quote. And yes, that certainly highlights that he wasn't paying her for sex directly, but rather for the power derived from it.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by agumonkey on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @04:30PM (#24346686)
what's not to like about this era
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by syshum on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:47PM (#24346170)
My ethics continue to prevent me from being a rich person....

Fools are easily separated from their money, but my ethics prevent me from taking advantage of those fools

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by valuearb on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @04:18PM (#24346530)
No, not finding a role in society where you generate a lot of value in the type of transactions people are willing to pay for keeps you from being a rich person.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by Swenrekcah on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @05:01PM (#24347005)
That's basically what they said. There are tons of things people are willing to pay for that would also be unethical to facilitate.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by valuearb on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @05:07PM (#24358143)
You can become wealthy simply through hard work and being frugal. There are a ton of fields where it’s easy to make a 6 figure income doing ethical legitimate work, and computer programming is a huge one.

Save 50% of your salary for 20 years, invest at even a mediocre rate and you will be a multimillionaire and able to retire on a 6 figure income for the rest of your life.

The difference between you the vast majority of the self made wealthy isn’t ethics, it’s drive, ambition, and the willingness to forgo luxuries.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by chii on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @03:23AM (#24350859)
> There are tons of things people are willing to pay for that would also be unethical to facilitate

such as?

If you exclude illegal acts, i cannot think of what unethical, but high demand goods/services there are that are currently under-served. Gambling, prostitution and other such vices? All highly competitive.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by Swenrekcah on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @03:55AM (#24351012)
There are many. A lot of Pyramid/MLM schemes are legal but basically all unethical.

The hologram bracelet and other similar 'products' are unethical.

As for this article and OnlyFans. I don't see a problem with selling nudes (although some people might), but what I gives me pause is the analysis that the 'fans' think they're buying intimacy and friendship. If that is the case, this is highly unethical unless you actually provide some sort of a real human relationship (which of course would not scale very well).

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by syshum on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:54AM (#24351939)
So do you derive your ethics from legality, i.e to you believe that if something is legal it is automatically ethical, and if something is illegal that is automatically unethical?

For example I find Loot Boxes to be a highly predatory and unethical way of monetization in gaming yet they are legal, I also find it completely ethical for a person to grow a certain plant in their home garden but it is illegal...

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by chii on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:33AM (#24353653)
> So do you derive your ethics from legality

yes, in some sense. when they differ, i would choose to make (or lobby for) what is unethical also illegal.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by syshum on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @11:02AM (#24353929)
Wow, that is very authoritarian political view. I hope you do not have much success in making things your dislike illegal
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by chii on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @11:21AM (#24354101)
> in making things your dislike illegal

dislike is very different from unethical.

Dislike is my taste - other people could have different tastes.

Unethical is defined by me as actions that "if everybody did it, society would collapse".

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by Nextgrid on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @05:27AM (#24351439)
Advertising? You make your money based on a few brands paying you big $$$ in exchange for you inconveniencing everyone else (who didn't ask for anything and often has no choice - very few platforms allow paying to opt-out of ads) by showing them ads.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by valuearb on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:34PM (#24347909)
There are many, many more that are ethical.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by syshum on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:51AM (#24351925)
Wow, a sarcastic post seems to have really struck a nerve with a politically correct crowd today...

It is always a sad reminder than humor and sarcasm really are dead in the world, I miss the mid 90's internet more and more every year....

In reality i do pretty good terms of my income and assets because i do provide value people are willing to pay for.

The bigger question is why my sarcastic comment seems to have struck a nerve with many people...

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by valuearb on Thursday September 03, 2020 @12:16AM (#24360755)
If lots of people take your sarcastic comments at face value, maybe the problem isn’t with them?
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by syshum on Thursday September 03, 2020 @06:55AM (#24362735)
The question is not about having a problem, or being the problem

The question is why so many people are perpetually outraged or offended and attempt to fine offense at every turn, every comment, every interaction.

Victim Mentality is at a all time high in human society and it is not a good thing

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by simonsarris on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:30AM (#24342863)
Perhaps you underestimate just how much people like to be fans: Some people spend thousands of dollars on a baseball if it's signed by a particular person. And $200 is cheap compared to a print of Elvis that's been signed by him. It's not even a nude print and you're not even giving him the money!

Broadly speaking I have found many people aching for the smallest shred of sentimentality. This is what she's selling. The only amazing thing is just how little people will buy.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by bnycum on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @12:16PM (#24343412)
Both the baseball and Elvis print have some monetary value to them though. I don't buy much in terms of collectors items, but when I do it's always under the thought that I will always be able to get my money out of it if I wanted.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by landryraccoon on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:24PM (#24345867)
I don’t believe that the value of memorabilia is ultimately driven by some sort of pyramid scheme, as would be implied if the only value to a collector is what they could sell it for.

I would argue that the value is ultimately driven by people who want to own an item at a given price. People who are Elvis fans may want to buy an item and hold it forever, because of the nostalgia value for them.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:48PM (#24346186)
The collector's value is what allows for the high market value though, because it can substitute for some other store of value. You have some money, instead of keeping it as cash in a mattress or shares of the Dow Jones, you buy some memorabilia which is expected to hold its value or increase. Then you get to enjoy it, but the value is still there if you need to liquidate it.

It basically allows you to have the thing for only the difference between its investment value and the (presumably higher) investment value of an index fund, rather than having to pay its full price with no hope to ever get it back. Which causes the market price to be a lot higher than it would be otherwise.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by myaccount275 on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @04:52AM (#24351280)
Another aspect is the bragging rights in a community of other fans. It's like a status symbol.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by JadoJodo on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @05:47PM (#24347501)
I'm reading Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics and the idea of inherent value is addressed in the 2nd chapter:

“The most fundamental reason why there is no such thing as an objective or “real” value is that there would be no rational basis for economic transactions if there were. When you pay a dollar for a newspaper, obviously the only reason you do so is that the newspaper is more valuable to you than the dollar is.

At the same time, the only reason people are willing to sell the newspaper is that a dollar is more valuable to them than the newspaper is. If there were any such thing as a “real” or objective value of a newspaper—or anything else—neither the buyer nor the seller would benefit from making a transaction at a price equal to that objective value, since what would be acquired would be of no greater value than what was given up. In that case, why bother to make the transaction in the first place?”

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by tomcatfish on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:46PM (#24348011)
I understand that it is a vocabulary choice, but I take issue with calling the price non-objective in that case.

As a toy example, imagine Alice farms Bananas and Bob farms Apples, but each is only able to eat the other food. They would both happily trade forever as they both gain value from this. This doesn't mean that the value is _subjective_, it means the value is _situational_, and I think the rigid vocabulary term and the connotations of the word are conflated a lot.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by JadoJodo on Friday September 04, 2020 @10:50PM (#24381020)
Assuming this scenario implies each needs to eat 1 banana and 1 apple, the Thomas Sowell outline still holds: Alice, having 2+ bananas, needs 1 apple more than the extra banana. And vice versa for Bob. Any bananas/apples beyond those needed to eat don't have any value at all.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by sujinge9 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @08:50PM (#24348880)
The value in your example is still subjective. What is the ratio of Bananas to Apples that is being traded and how much is being produced? While both are certainly willing to keep trading indefinitely, and to not do so would be catastrophic, but the actual price being paid is very subjective to the market players.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by chii on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @03:26AM (#24350871)
This is what happens when the language is unclear - the word "value" has different meaning in each context.

"Value" as in "utility", and "value" as in "currency" or unit of account.

When trading some currency for utility, each side of the transaction gains something more than what they gave up. The buyer of food got food they needed to eat. The seller of food (presumably has so much food they cannot eat it all) gains extra currency that they can use elsewhere.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by erik_seaberg on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:13AM (#24351710)
The value of a newspaper depends on how many I have. If I have none, I want one, but probably not two. If I printed a million, I just want to sell them (and amortize what I paid the staff).
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by Hitton on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:52AM (#24343124)
But the Elvis was the one and only "King of Rock and Roll", and these are sex workers (for the lack of better word) who don't have anything that isn't already provided by thousands of other sex workers (or rather millions).
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by valuearb on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @04:19PM (#24346543)
Millions of people can sing “I want to be a hound dog”
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:28AM (#24342087)
You're underestimating how much expendable income some people have. I probably am too, and I'm amazed at how much money goes on in e.g. Onlyfans, twitch (donations / subscriptions), youtube (ads, subs), patreon, etc.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by wirthjason on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:02PM (#24344733)
Obviously must be underestimating because I feel like I’m in the wrong job reading this stuff!

Overall it’s a good thing that the internet can provide the “long tail” for content when it used to be dominated by a few major players, often with big barriers to entry.

For example I’m happy to buy self-published tech books. Thorsten Ball’s “Writing an interpreter / compiler in Go” series comes to mind. Those books don’t see the light of day in the old model. His books are well written and original.

So if you have a niche and someone produces content, esp high quality content, then by all means support it. But saying someone’s name in a live stream, sending some nude photos, etc. doesn’t seem to have much original value.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by sushshshsh on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:36AM (#24342199)
It's not hard to come up with $200 if you are a single guy with a good job, no house no wife no kids and no ambitions
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by bufferoverflow on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:37AM (#24342216)
I was that guy. And at no point I thought of wasting $200 on some nude pictures or videos. The internet is full of them for free.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by sushshshsh on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:58AM (#24342465)
If you have a specific attachment to some celebrity in particular, there is a high chance that the internet is in fact not full of them, even for an infinite price.

And, if the pictures/vids have been leaked, there are still people who will pay for personalized content, in which the celebrity personally mentions the payer's name or has a conversation with them or etc.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by bluntfang on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:59AM (#24342480)
But the internet isn't full of pictures that were taking specifically for you and accompanied by personal correspondence to you. the product isn't the pictures. The product is an experience, likely to do with power and not sex. The feeling of control. The feeling that you're able to tell someone what to do. The feeling that you're participating in taboo.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by hpkuarg on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @04:17PM (#24346513)
> like to do with power and not sex

"Everything in the world is about sex except sex. Sex is about power."

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by timwaagh on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:19PM (#24347797)
Ambitions? Like what ambitions should single guys harbour that are so expensive? Scaling Everest is a good one but it's still kind of a dangerous way to get rid of excess income. And cold too.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by sushshshsh on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @08:26PM (#24348734)
Most single guys that have hobbies that arent OnlyFans (or strip clubs, the meatspace equivalent), would usually be doing something like cars, drinking, clubbing, traveling, computers/gaming, or sports
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by Marsymars on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @12:19AM (#24349938)
My interpretation wouldn't be that ambitions are expensive monetarily, but rather in terms of time. I've got various hobbies where spending more money doesn't really get me anywhere - if I was more ambitious, I'd need to scale down my work to somewhere between 0-50% FTE to devote more time to a particular hobby.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by bena on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:43AM (#24342292)
I get not getting it. But whenever I find myself in that position, I walk over to my closet full of Lego sets. That's pointless as well. But, you know, I have a $700 Star Destroyer.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by booi on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:32PM (#24345982)
... ok i'll bite. can i buy a picture of it?!
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by bena on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:45PM (#24346147)
I was just basically saying that I don't have to "get" why someone would want to spend money for nude pictures of people. I'm sure lots of people wouldn't get buying Lego sets either. But I do it because I like it.

Also, I'll get a picture up soon.

Additional: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1TEJNuOwgxsgTRi_j4AQo...

Here are pictures of the closet with non-Lego stuff cut out.

Lego1 contains sets I've built but are currently disassembled, with the exception of the Voltron which is at my office. I have the boxes for far fewer sets than are currently contained within those boxes. I typically keep the boxes only for certain sets.

Lego2 has pictures of the UCS Falcon and the UCS Star Destroyer. The Falcon was built and displayed, but is currently disassembled. The Star Destroyer has not been opened yet. The container underneath has the instructions and some sets in box I haven't built yet.

Lego3 is mostly unbuilt/unopened sets. You can also see my containers of loose bricks. Much older sets from throughout life.

Lego4 is the stuff on top of that. The NES set is currently built and on display.

Each picture represents probably anywhere from $1000 to $3000 worth of sets.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by booi on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @02:11PM (#24356014)
No star destroyer? I want a refund plz
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by bena on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @05:35PM (#24358438)
It's in Lego2. The three visible boxes are The Droid Developer Kit, The Imperial Star Destroyer, The Millennium Falcon.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by Pfhreak on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:27AM (#24342077)
My hypotheses: Some people want to pay creators, support specific individuals, or feel like they have a connection to someone in particular.

If this is what someone's discretionary budget is allocated to, more power to them.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by chillwaves on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @09:12PM (#24349025)
This is a big part of it, at least in smaller communities.

People want to show their gratitude. It's more relevant to the Twitch conversations. OF is basically all paid members where twitch, the ratio is probably 20:1 or worse, free to paid.

The people who are paying are doing so because they want to, not because they have to. That's one big difference between Twitch and Onlyfans.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by entropie on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @12:26PM (#24343502)
I suggest to go a few hours to twitch and check out how people throw money at the screen for really no value, and in this case there is actual value (you have topless pics others dont have).
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by wirthjason on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:09PM (#24344831)
The lack of value is the hardest thing to grasp. I wonder how the creators feel. Obviously they like the pay day but do they every feel like taking in a lot of money for little value. (Although I’m sure they rationalize the value in their head.)
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by dragonwriter on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:39PM (#24346058)
> The lack of value is the hardest thing to grasp.

Value is subjective. Just because you don't think it has a lot of value doesn't mean the people paying for it don't.

Plenty of people probably think plenty of the things you pay for don't have as much value as you place on them. In a market economy, it's naturally the people that (ceteris paribus) value a thing the most that end up buying it.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by wirthjason on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @08:38PM (#24348802)
To say that value is subjective does not mean that we cannot rank things. Clearly some things are more valuable than others. To give a computer science analogy it’s like say that just because numbers are infinite you cannot count them.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by sujinge9 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @08:52PM (#24348901)
Sure, you may be able to rank your subjective values. But implying your stack ranking is more valid than someone else's is unempathetic.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by chillwaves on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @09:13PM (#24349026)
And nonsensical. What is the value in telling other people they are wrong for liking the things they like?
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by dragonwriter on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @09:01PM (#24348951)
> To say that value is subjective does not mean that we cannot rank things.

Unless you mean “...according to one set of preferences”, it means exactly that..

> Clearly some things are more valuable than others.

No, you are again trying to make your own preferences and objective yardstick of value. Something's are more valuable to to some people, and these things are also less valuable to other people.

While there are lots of reasons to argue it's not an ideal aggregate (e.g., and this is far from the only factor, because people don't enter transactions in the same starting position, so preexisting wealth weights things) markets are one of the mechanisms of aggregating preference to arrive at “value”.

> To give a computer science analogy it’s like say that just because numbers are infinite you cannot count them.

No, saying that subjective value can't have objective ranking is more like saying that because there isn't a bijection between reals and naturals, the reals aren't countable.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by entropie on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @04:13PM (#24346465)
Iam consuming twitch for about 2 years now and started with gaming streams (Usually I play one game casual and looking for some streamer that fits skill and personality wise and watch him/her - right now this is magic for me).

I didnt mean the no value as in "you get nothing back for your money". Streaming is hard work - I dont doubt that. And it entertains me a lot so I dont mind paying some money.

But OTH I watched a streams where people literally donated thousands of dollars to the streamer (In the specific case even twitch refused to take the money and banned the person who spend it because they thought of money laundering). Iam really interested how this will develop the future of media consumption. Also I feel older every day.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by chillwaves on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @09:14PM (#24349034)
I have personally witnessed a $5000 donation on a stream. The logistics of that much money flowing to these streamers is staggering.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by tehjoker on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:36PM (#24346025)
You're thinking of pictures as commodities when these models are providing personal services.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by xboxnolifes on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @01:51PM (#24344589)
I bet nearly everyone in the thread has $200 to speed. Whether they choose to spend it on this is completely tangential.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by bob33212 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:29PM (#24345949)
Someone in this thread probably has a $500-$1000. Someone could look at that and say what the hell? A $200 chair is just fine.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by rootsudo on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @04:16PM (#24346505)
A $200 chair is cheap, and capital equipment. It is a tool, it provides continuous value, has a warranty and solves a problem.

$200 for the same picture and a "thank you, u so cute xoxo" is not the same as the chair.

It does solve a few problems though, that, in some people, put first over having a chair.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by timwaagh on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:29PM (#24347871)
You could get a good chair for way way less though. Matter of fact I'm sitting on a $30 couch right now. Which is probably what that chair of yours is worth after you buy it. What made you spend the other $170? Perhaps it gave you a good feeling? Maybe the picture did the same...
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by lancesells on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @04:38PM (#24346782)
Humanity in general need these things: food, shelter & love / societal interactions.

So much money is spent on things outside these necessities that I would argue for a particular person it's much more valuable than a chair. Buying "love" even temporarily might be better for the psyche than buying that new flatscreen that is just slightly improved than the old flatscreen.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by tashoecraft on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:48AM (#24342348)
I think most of these things rely on whales. I know mobile games and twitch streamers receive a massive amount of money from less then 1% of their audience dropping obscene amounts of money. I imagine it's the same here.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by hackinthebochs on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @05:24PM (#24347250)
People don't pay for porn, they pay for specific porn. "Specific" porn can come in many varieties: the person, the act, the body type, personal touch, etc.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by svachalek on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:38AM (#24342233)
You probably make all your own money, pay all your bills and save for retirement. But you’d probably be surprised how many people aren’t doing at least one of these three, and how easy spending is for them.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by bluGill on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @04:14PM (#24346480)
Very true. My wife remarked once how sad she feels for some friends that we know that are poor. I added things up, if you subtract my retirement savings, and both our house payments (their house is significant smaller/cheaper than ours) we both have about the same amount of spending cash each month to work with. Of course my plan is to someday retire and live like a king, their plans is to live off of social security...
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by pixxel on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:13PM (#24344891)
I’ve always wondered why people pay for porn in general. I guess I should thank them.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by jrnichols on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @05:40PM (#24347428)
> I don’t get it. Who has the income to drop hundreds of dollars on pictures like this?!?!

I know several people that now have that to spend because they aren't taking public transit anymore and another gave up a $300/mo parking place in New York.

Now he's spending a bunch of the money he should be saving on OnlyFans, "Premium snapchats" and Fortnite.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by Dirlewanger on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:29AM (#24342097)
People want pictures of those that they interact with on a regular basis/are attracted to. Otherwise sexting wouldn't be as large of a phenomenon as it is.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by brmgb on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:42AM (#24342285)
Sexting is a direct erotic interaction with someone. It is not actually about the pictures per se. A lot of sexting doesn't involve pictures at all.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by helipad on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:21AM (#24341993)
I suppose you don't need income so much as a credit line.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by hippodou on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:28AM (#24342084)
I'd pay a few hundred dollars for nudes of some women I know if they're happy to sell them with informed consent. Seeing someone you know naked is a lot more interesting than seeing a random person naked.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by hackinthebochs on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @05:29PM (#24347312)
This. It's strange how many people will rationalize that all nude images are interchangeable, so no one should pay for porn. It's so obviously not true for most people.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by shard972 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @08:24PM (#24348722)
Young lonely men who nobody cares about unless they open up their wallets.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by reyqn on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:44AM (#24342308)
That's the real issue. The target isn't people who can afford it, it's any horny guy, whether they are rich or poor. Rich people won't actually be affected by it, but it keeps some poor people in misery.

Also I would guess poor people are more likely to lack intimate affection, so they are probably the most common profile.

They don't have the income, but they spend the money anyway.