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Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by syshum on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:47PM (#24346170)
My ethics continue to prevent me from being a rich person....

Fools are easily separated from their money, but my ethics prevent me from taking advantage of those fools

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by valuearb on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @04:18PM (#24346530)
No, not finding a role in society where you generate a lot of value in the type of transactions people are willing to pay for keeps you from being a rich person.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by Swenrekcah on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @05:01PM (#24347005)
That's basically what they said. There are tons of things people are willing to pay for that would also be unethical to facilitate.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by valuearb on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @05:07PM (#24358143)
You can become wealthy simply through hard work and being frugal. There are a ton of fields where it’s easy to make a 6 figure income doing ethical legitimate work, and computer programming is a huge one.

Save 50% of your salary for 20 years, invest at even a mediocre rate and you will be a multimillionaire and able to retire on a 6 figure income for the rest of your life.

The difference between you the vast majority of the self made wealthy isn’t ethics, it’s drive, ambition, and the willingness to forgo luxuries.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by chii on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @03:23AM (#24350859)
> There are tons of things people are willing to pay for that would also be unethical to facilitate

such as?

If you exclude illegal acts, i cannot think of what unethical, but high demand goods/services there are that are currently under-served. Gambling, prostitution and other such vices? All highly competitive.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by Swenrekcah on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @03:55AM (#24351012)
There are many. A lot of Pyramid/MLM schemes are legal but basically all unethical.

The hologram bracelet and other similar 'products' are unethical.

As for this article and OnlyFans. I don't see a problem with selling nudes (although some people might), but what I gives me pause is the analysis that the 'fans' think they're buying intimacy and friendship. If that is the case, this is highly unethical unless you actually provide some sort of a real human relationship (which of course would not scale very well).

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by syshum on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:54AM (#24351939)
So do you derive your ethics from legality, i.e to you believe that if something is legal it is automatically ethical, and if something is illegal that is automatically unethical?

For example I find Loot Boxes to be a highly predatory and unethical way of monetization in gaming yet they are legal, I also find it completely ethical for a person to grow a certain plant in their home garden but it is illegal...

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by chii on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:33AM (#24353653)
> So do you derive your ethics from legality

yes, in some sense. when they differ, i would choose to make (or lobby for) what is unethical also illegal.

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by syshum on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @11:02AM (#24353929)
Wow, that is very authoritarian political view. I hope you do not have much success in making things your dislike illegal
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by chii on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @11:21AM (#24354101)
> in making things your dislike illegal

dislike is very different from unethical.

Dislike is my taste - other people could have different tastes.

Unethical is defined by me as actions that "if everybody did it, society would collapse".

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by Nextgrid on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @05:27AM (#24351439)
Advertising? You make your money based on a few brands paying you big $$$ in exchange for you inconveniencing everyone else (who didn't ask for anything and often has no choice - very few platforms allow paying to opt-out of ads) by showing them ads.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by valuearb on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:34PM (#24347909)
There are many, many more that are ethical.
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by syshum on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:51AM (#24351925)
Wow, a sarcastic post seems to have really struck a nerve with a politically correct crowd today...

It is always a sad reminder than humor and sarcasm really are dead in the world, I miss the mid 90's internet more and more every year....

In reality i do pretty good terms of my income and assets because i do provide value people are willing to pay for.

The bigger question is why my sarcastic comment seems to have struck a nerve with many people...

Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by valuearb on Thursday September 03, 2020 @12:16AM (#24360755)
If lots of people take your sarcastic comments at face value, maybe the problem isn’t with them?
Re:Bella Thorne, OnlyFans and the battle over monetising con... by syshum on Thursday September 03, 2020 @06:55AM (#24362735)
The question is not about having a problem, or being the problem

The question is why so many people are perpetually outraged or offended and attempt to fine offense at every turn, every comment, every interaction.

Victim Mentality is at a all time high in human society and it is not a good thing