Re:The rise and fall of the industrial R&D lab
by ColanR on Sunday August 30, 2020 @12:52PM
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That's really easy to say in retrospect, just like it's easy to say any major discovery was inevitable after we've already discovered it.
Re:The rise and fall of the industrial R&D lab
by HarryHirsch on Sunday August 30, 2020 @01:13PM
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But it is really like that. It depends on the groundwork that's there, technical capabilities and tooling. Once that's in place it only takes a lucky guy to pluck the discovery out of the air.
Consider dual-space methods in crystallography. Herb Hauptman is credited with the discovery. My undergraduate advisor obliquely mentioned that he had done something similar in 1986 - obtain atom positions from direct methods, then do a few cycles of tangent refinement from the highest peaks. It reduces map noise considerably.
Computers were simply too slow at that time to use this as a general method of solving 1000-atom structures, so the approach remained an afterthought. But the possibilities were noted once the computing power was there.
Re:The rise and fall of the industrial R&D lab
by rowanG077 on Sunday August 30, 2020 @01:48PM
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It is like that. But simply discoveries being delayed could delay technical advancement for decades and even centuries in the long run.
Re:The rise and fall of the industrial R&D lab
by ColanR on Sunday August 30, 2020 @07:00PM
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The problem is, that lucky guy can take an indefinitely long time to show up.
I heard recently about the Scythe Project. Apparently, the scythe was never invented in some places, including India. That's a long time for the lucky guy to never show up.
Re:The rise and fall of the industrial R&D lab
by obastani on Sunday August 30, 2020 @07:38PM
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According to Wikipedia [1], the transistor was independently rediscovered by two German physicists just a year later (1948).
Re:The rise and fall of the industrial R&D lab
by rowanG077 on Sunday August 30, 2020 @12:10PM
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Probably yes. But let's say the transistor would have been invented 20 years later by a university. The world would look completely different today. Simply saying we could have invented it some other way disregards the continous impact a result in research makes.
because the transistor is so fundamental, we probably could've worked towards it in hundreds of different ways than Bell Labs
but that's a big thing in tech circles - thinking a person or entity doing some technical feat is somehow a sign that they are otherworldly