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Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by vanderZwan on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @12:06PM (#24283781)
This actually shows something interesting: that there is a coherent visual language for interfaces within the sci-fi subgenre of graphic design that just kind of appeared by implicit consensus. Which I guess can be said for many visual design trends - many of us can guess both when and for what purpose a product was designed based on its graphic design.
Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by Andrew_nenakhov on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @12:11PM (#24283847)
Btw, the Holo interface we saw in Android 4 was very influenced by this type of design. It was rather stylish, even if difficult to use consistently. But of course since then it was replaced by Material Design, starting with Android 5.0
Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by pmlnr on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @04:21PM (#24286833)
God, I miss holo. It was so much nicer on the eyes. "Dark Mode" is... ugly. I'm glad it exists, but it's still uglier, than holo was.
Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by Andrew_nenakhov on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @04:38PM (#24287004)
Problem with Holo it was hard to follow this concept and create visually distinct apps. They would all be cold white and blue. Material design gives for more variability.
Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by grishka on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @04:47PM (#24287097)
Some apps did change the accent color, but it was very non-trivial. Material design comes with tintable controls out of the box.
Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by grishka on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @04:45PM (#24287081)
There were two Holo themes: dark and light. You'd pick one and extend it with the style of your brand. My only gripe with it was that there's no built-in mechanism to add shadows to things — you have to use pre-rendered shadows as bitmaps or generate them on the fly.

Anyway, "dark mode" is totally doable with Holo.

Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by caycep on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @02:01PM (#24285240)
Of interest to me is that a lot of the graphics and sounds are based on '70's and '80's tech with the constraints of the circuits and display technology that were "state of the art" then, but then "futurized". Such that advanced tech now spends computer cycles simulating analog circuits, CRTs, etc, for the purpose of nostalgia...
Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by InitialLastName on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @09:13PM (#24289209)
You might like the book "Make It So" [0] about interface design language in science fiction.

[0] https://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/make-it-so/

Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by numpad0 on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @12:33PM (#24284089)
Also that coherency is probably why many Star Trek reboots often look off
Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by dvtrn on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @12:55PM (#24284358)
It definitely is for me. The LCARS interface is as much of a character of the story as the as the Enterprise herself (substitute with Voyager, Defiant, or São Paulo if you wish) and I’d go a step further of saying ship interfaces and systems inform us as much about the era of Star Trek one is watching as does the plot and narrative at any given moment to the discerning and attentive Trekkie :)
Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @02:32PM (#24285655)
Strongly agreed. Which is why I was glad to see LCARS returning in Lower Decks, and the series is experimenting with tweaking the design a little to include some lessons in UI design learned over the past decades. Despite being animated comedy, I like it better than post-Enterprise installments, because it brings back the design language of TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT era.
Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by Izkata on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @08:34PM (#24288938)
ENT in particular was interesting, when I went back and re-watched it after finally getting to TNG/DS9/VOY (ENT being the first one I saw): They IMO successfully crossed real-world interfaces with TNG-era LCARS [0], creating something that looks vaguely like a tiled window manager, has a minimize function akin to the Windows start-bar (the icons on the right are minimized windows, used on rare occasion in the show for discreet messages), but with a whole bunch of hints of a natural progression into what it would become later in-universe.

[0] https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Desktop_monitor?file=22...

Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by vanderZwan on Thursday August 27, 2020 @03:53AM (#24291109)
It's also interesting how they included design hints of how this would evolve in to TOS era design later (the bulky monitor for example).

It's kind of ironic actually: we as viewers expect that kind of historical consistency, and complain about changes that feel disconnected, but in reality the history of interface design is full of such kind of radical shifts!

Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by pseudalopex on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @05:56PM (#24287753)
That sounds really interesting! Could you share some examples?
Re:Arwes – Futuristic Sci-Fi / Cyberpunk Graphical User Inte... by TeMPOraL on Friday August 28, 2020 @03:38PM (#24309079)
It's various minor things. Like PADDs being proper LCARS tablets with a bit more space for content, smaller bevel[0] and even portrait mode[1]. Or the experiments with circular (radial) elements on display, which arguably are now decorative, but still they fit in, so are a good starting point for further exploration.

Or, and I can't find a screenshot of it now, that one tiny joke that made me almost spit out my tea. A scene on the bridge, the captain talking to someone over the viewscreen; she makes a gesture to cut off audio, the tactical officer presses a button on his console, and a small icon of a crossed out speaker appears on said console. Immediately recognizable even for non-StarTrek audience, and still they made it fit the style.

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[0] - https://www.yourprops.com/PADD-replica-movie-prop-Star-Trek-...

[1] - https://www.yourprops.com/Medical-PADD-replica-movie-prop-St..., though there was precedent in DS9, AFAIR.