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Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by smikhanov on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @05:51PM (#24137432)
3.5 years on my prediction holds well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13811365
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by chroma on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:17PM (#24137682)
With any new technology, the likelihood of failure is high but the expected value is positive. As Nat Friedman (CEO of GitHub) said: "Pessimists sound smart. Optimists make money."
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by smikhanov on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:22PM (#24137731)
> the likelihood of failure is high but the expected value is positive

Except when the new technology was proposed and marketed by a loony, of course.

Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by marvin on Thursday August 13, 2020 @07:53AM (#24142374)
Yes, all those poor Tesla IPO investors who got misled by a loony are lining up for shareholder lawsuits and yelling for prosecution, due to the obviously financially irresponsible management of their investment.

(Refresh my memory here - would an 88X return on investment after IPO be classified as high returns on a high-risk investment?)

Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by smikhanov on Thursday August 13, 2020 @08:55AM (#24142823)
I sense some notes of disagreement with calling the Tesla CEO "a loony"
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by sudosysgen on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @09:51PM (#24139181)
The likelihood of failure is 100% when the technology is as ridiculous as the hyperloop. It's just yet more gadgetbahn, except it's transparently worse.
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by heavenlyblue on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:19PM (#24137701)
* 10% of the optimists make money
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by chrisco255 on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:55PM (#24138044)
The optimists get more than one at bat.
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by bhupy on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @07:06PM (#24138131)
And pessimists don’t?
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by therealdrag0 on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @08:01PM (#24138552)
I think the implication is that pessimists don’t try.
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by heavenlyblue on Thursday August 13, 2020 @01:52AM (#24140332)
Your assumption is only true if trying never has a negative downside.
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by therealdrag0 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @12:07PM (#24144852)
I don’t see how that follows.
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by nytgop77 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @04:31PM (#24148533)
My take on the GP meaning: Failure diminishes trust from investors.

If you got 1 milliion from investors, and you blew it/wasted it/burned it. It will be harder to get the million for the 2nd idea.

Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by reify_null on Thursday August 13, 2020 @03:59AM (#24141011)
Talk about a false dichotomy there. No person is fully a pessimist or optimist. Framing it in terms like this just serves to stifle actual discussion. A nice soundbite from someone who happened to be optimistic about the right thing.
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by aeternum on Thursday August 13, 2020 @12:10AM (#24139862)
A pneumatic railway was already built and functional in London in 1863. While designed for mail, humans rode on it and it was triple the speed of any transport of the time.

Technically it might qualify as a hyperloop so your prediction may already be wrong.

Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by joering2 on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @05:58PM (#24137509)
you need to fix your clock, its not 2027 yet.
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by fastball on Thursday August 13, 2020 @03:51AM (#24140958)
The prediction holds, not the prediction is decided.