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Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by chroma on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:17PM (#24137682)
With any new technology, the likelihood of failure is high but the expected value is positive. As Nat Friedman (CEO of GitHub) said: "Pessimists sound smart. Optimists make money."
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by smikhanov on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:22PM (#24137731)
> the likelihood of failure is high but the expected value is positive

Except when the new technology was proposed and marketed by a loony, of course.

Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by marvin on Thursday August 13, 2020 @07:53AM (#24142374)
Yes, all those poor Tesla IPO investors who got misled by a loony are lining up for shareholder lawsuits and yelling for prosecution, due to the obviously financially irresponsible management of their investment.

(Refresh my memory here - would an 88X return on investment after IPO be classified as high returns on a high-risk investment?)

Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by smikhanov on Thursday August 13, 2020 @08:55AM (#24142823)
I sense some notes of disagreement with calling the Tesla CEO "a loony"
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by sudosysgen on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @09:51PM (#24139181)
The likelihood of failure is 100% when the technology is as ridiculous as the hyperloop. It's just yet more gadgetbahn, except it's transparently worse.
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by heavenlyblue on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:19PM (#24137701)
* 10% of the optimists make money
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by chrisco255 on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:55PM (#24138044)
The optimists get more than one at bat.
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by bhupy on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @07:06PM (#24138131)
And pessimists don’t?
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by therealdrag0 on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @08:01PM (#24138552)
I think the implication is that pessimists don’t try.
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by heavenlyblue on Thursday August 13, 2020 @01:52AM (#24140332)
Your assumption is only true if trying never has a negative downside.
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by therealdrag0 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @12:07PM (#24144852)
I don’t see how that follows.
Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by nytgop77 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @04:31PM (#24148533)
My take on the GP meaning: Failure diminishes trust from investors.

If you got 1 milliion from investors, and you blew it/wasted it/burned it. It will be harder to get the million for the 2nd idea.

Re:Hyperloop: Pipes of Fancy by reify_null on Thursday August 13, 2020 @03:59AM (#24141011)
Talk about a false dichotomy there. No person is fully a pessimist or optimist. Framing it in terms like this just serves to stifle actual discussion. A nice soundbite from someone who happened to be optimistic about the right thing.