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Re:Universal Basic Income is Capitalism 2.0 by mcv on Thursday July 30, 2020 @04:48AM (#23995968)
Making empty houses more expensive through property taxes is absolutely an option. I think it's totally fair to reimburse the community for taking land away from the community to put an empty house on it.

My point is: there needs to be competition on the supply side in the housing market, to keep prices somewhat related to the real cost of the house. If this isn't possible, the government needs to step in. I hope to avoid that where possible, though it's certainly necessary to prevent landlords from raising the rent on people after they settled in a home.

Re:Universal Basic Income is Capitalism 2.0 by Chris2048 on Thursday July 30, 2020 @06:55AM (#23996698)
The community didn't own the land, so didn't lose it; It's more accurate to say - the community still has to manage the land (e.g. policing, fire service) so property tax always needs paying, and should be relative to those services.
Re:Universal Basic Income is Capitalism 2.0 by mcv on Thursday July 30, 2020 @07:44AM (#23996988)
Private ownership of land does take it away from the community. The problem is that we've gotten so used to everything being privately owned, that we've grown blind to the possibility of land not being owned by anyone and belonging to everybody.
Re:Universal Basic Income is Capitalism 2.0 by Chris2048 on Thursday July 30, 2020 @09:41AM (#23997978)
Land that isn't private is still owned by the government, and maintained by taxes. I wouldn't say public land is belongs to everyone, so much as it belongs to no one - there are limits to what it can be used for e.g. can I build a house on such land?
Re:Universal Basic Income is Capitalism 2.0 by baq on Thursday July 30, 2020 @10:33AM (#23998630)
this thread is about UBI, which is currently impossible without new laws, so why not look at what could be possible with new laws regarding land?
Re:Universal Basic Income is Capitalism 2.0 by Chris2048 on Thursday July 30, 2020 @12:14PM (#23999872)
Go ahead.
Re:Universal Basic Income is Capitalism 2.0 by francisofascii on Thursday July 30, 2020 @10:01AM (#23998239)
The community lost the land when it was doled out to the first private landowner, which may have occurred centuries ago.
Re:Universal Basic Income is Capitalism 2.0 by Chris2048 on Thursday July 30, 2020 @12:17PM (#23999898)
Or when the first settler settled there and defended it, before which there may have been no persistent local community.

Are we not talking about modern society though?