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Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by andy_boot on Friday April 01, 2011 @06:18AM (#2395679)
Surely the raininess factor is an April fools at least?

The happyness factor from mouse movements? Well I'm unsure but I can see how someone could argue that could be calculated. But raininess? Please no.

Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by paraschopra on Friday April 01, 2011 @06:27AM (#2395697)
It is not about whether it will rain or not. It is about whether a user thinks it will rain or not. Surely it can be predicted, isn't it?
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by rgrieselhuber on Friday April 01, 2011 @04:14AM (#2395434)
I remember GazeHawk had done some research about this, I'd love to hear their thoughts.
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by bkrausz on Friday April 01, 2011 @04:24AM (#2395460)
I was preparing my "this is bullshit" face, which involves aggressively linking to our rebuttal ( http://www.gazehawk.com/blog/eye-tracking-vs-mouse-tracking/ )

Then I looked at the calendar. Well played Paras!

Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by whathappenedto on Friday April 01, 2011 @04:59AM (#2395538)
In the non-calendar related world, some of the cutting edge research on using cursor movements is done by the University of Washington and Microsoft Research: http://jeffhuang.com/Final_CursorBehavior_CHI11.pdf

The article shows how movements and hesitations can be used to figure out which links are relevant to you. I believe this is the largest scale study to date (38 subjects on eye-tracking + cursor-tracking, thousands of subjects on cursor-tracking only).

Also, this article from Emory University: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.169... uses cursor movements to figure out if a user is browsing/researching a product or ready to buy.

Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by bkrausz on Friday April 01, 2011 @06:07PM (#2398290)
It's funny because that paper and our blog post cite the same Google paper. There's some level of interpretation of data, but some of his cited papers offer strong evidence contrary to his point.

From the Jeff Huang paper:

   The mean Euclidean distance between cursor and gaze is 178px 
   (σ = 139px) and the median is 143px.
The problem here is that there's a long tail of completely inaccurate data: the average distance between eye and mouse is 178px. I believe there are some people who tend to follow their eyes with their mouse, and some people who don't. Google research suggests the ratio is about 1:2.

That being said, I am a bit off topic here: there is most definitely value that can be extracted from mouse position. Can it be used to tell where the user is looking? Unlikely in the common case. Can it indicate purchase intent? I wouldn't be surprised.

My rebuttal was mostly premeditated by the amount of false interpretation of research about mouse-eye correlation. There's a lot of really good research out there, but it's often mis-cited to support an opposing claim.

Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by kingsley_20 on Friday April 01, 2011 @05:38AM (#2395624)
Please make these an independent post?!
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by ankneo on Friday April 01, 2011 @04:12AM (#2395428)
Looks cool :) looking forward to use it !!
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by lwhi on Friday April 01, 2011 @07:52AM (#2395837)
There are mathematics symbols, it looks scientific. Must be true :)
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by dancunningham on Friday April 01, 2011 @08:18AM (#2395886)
One step further... using body movements...

http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.html

"Create a flowchart with ease" :-)

But is the undertone a suggestion that Kinect just isn't going to make it out of the world of gaming?

Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by pkaura on Friday April 01, 2011 @04:14AM (#2395435)
This is kool.
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by shadowpwner on Friday April 01, 2011 @04:54AM (#2395528)
The ten test subjects is hardly a representative sample.
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by paraschopra on Friday April 01, 2011 @05:33AM (#2395608)
Don't forget all of them are from 4Chan. It is as representative as it can get.
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by shadowpwner on Friday April 01, 2011 @06:19AM (#2395682)
Wow, I missed that completely. Tags: april fool joke, behavioral targeting, joke, lol, sophisticated
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by amnigos on Friday April 01, 2011 @08:58AM (#2395988)
Mouse tracking only solves 20% of the problem.
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by combiclickwise on Friday April 01, 2011 @08:48AM (#2395969)
almost fell for it.. well done
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by Silhouette on Friday April 01, 2011 @06:31AM (#2395703)
Can it also tell whether I am thinking of pink ponies while viewing your site, so that an appropriate visual style and colour scheme can be presented? I think that would be a valuable addition to an exemplary toolbox for professional web developers.
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by antihero on Friday April 01, 2011 @06:27AM (#2395699)
Is that an MCP neuron??
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by ankneo on Friday April 01, 2011 @04:22AM (#2395453)
hey one question though.. is it related to the day?? :D
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by oscardelben on Friday April 01, 2011 @04:37AM (#2395489)
Nope, 4chan confirmed their involvement.
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by paraschopra on Friday April 01, 2011 @04:23AM (#2395456)
Which day are you talking about ;)
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by meadhikari on Friday April 01, 2011 @04:34AM (#2395481)
April 1st
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by ankneo on Friday April 01, 2011 @04:58AM (#2395536)
you understood i guess :)
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by logjam on Friday April 01, 2011 @04:20AM (#2395447)
Read my mind. Also stole some of the change I had laying beside my laptop. Impressive.
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by matthewslotkin on Friday April 01, 2011 @04:48AM (#2395515)
I heard Color was using this technology to determine whether people were angry, disappointed, or just waiting for something interesting to happen when using their app.
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by jdp23 on Friday April 01, 2011 @10:18AM (#2396312)
Actually Color used an early version of this technology to determine how VCs would react to their pitch and tuned it appropriately. This really helps explain both the amount they raised and the confusing quote from Sequoia that "we haven't seen anything this rainy since Google!"
Re:Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements t... by petenixey on Friday April 01, 2011 @05:28AM (#2395598)
I heard the overwhelming outcome of that experiment was "perplexed"