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Re:How Developers Stop Learning: Rise of the Expert Beginner... by knorker on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @05:03AM (#23768176)
I really hate it when articles exactly date their stories, but don't provide a year.

"Sep 30", this one says. Hmm… can't be 2019, because I read this years ago, I'm sure.

The only indicator of year I could find is that the comments to the article are 7 years old.

Re:How Developers Stop Learning: Rise of the Expert Beginner... by jasode on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @05:24AM (#23768272)
If you "view source", there's a JSON blob that has this:

  ,"datePublished":"2012-09-30T23:48:21+00:00","dateModified":"2019-06-06T01:20:40+00:00",
Looking at raw html source isn't always a reliable indicator but the older date looks legit in this case.

[Can someone explain the downvotes? I'd like to know if my information is incorrect.]

Re:How Developers Stop Learning: Rise of the Expert Beginner... by khamba on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @06:34AM (#23768596)
> Can someone explain the downvotes?

Someone may have taken your comment as a defense of the article not publishing year (which is a ridiculous defense) and hence the downvotes.

It is definitely really bad UX if you have to "view source" to find information.

Re:How Developers Stop Learning: Rise of the Expert Beginner... by mxfh on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @08:12AM (#23769096)
If you need more confirmation:

It's also possibe to just go to some "unoptimized" part of the blog.

The whole wordpress theme seems to be trimmed to be "timeless", including URLs.

https://daedtech.com/?s=%22Rise+of+the+Expert+Beginner%22

shows: Sep 30, 2012, since it's feed by the same database.

WordPress dates are no authorative sourcem since they can by changed at any time to anything.

But the story has about a dozen submits including pre https times: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

With the first one in april 2013, about half a year later.

Re:How Developers Stop Learning: Rise of the Expert Beginner... by jansan on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @06:35AM (#23768599)
Nice hack, but this should not be the preferred way to find the year of an article, even for a nerd.
Re:How Developers Stop Learning: Rise of the Expert Beginner... by nicoburns on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @06:28AM (#23768571)
I've no idea why you're getting downvoted. This seems correct and useful to me.
Re:How Developers Stop Learning: Rise of the Expert Beginner... by JohnL4 on Thursday July 09, 2020 @12:51PM (#23782159)
Nice bit of detective work.

As for the downvotes, I guess the nail that sticks up gets hammered down?

Re:How Developers Stop Learning: Rise of the Expert Beginner... by wondringaloud on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @12:11PM (#23771267)
Be less concerned with internet points.
Re:How Developers Stop Learning: Rise of the Expert Beginner... by PikachuEXE on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @05:20AM (#23768255)
Yup it's like an address with detail up to room number but missing city / country

We might be able to guess the missing city via street name search but impossible for dates

Re:How Developers Stop Learning: Rise of the Expert Beginner... by wonder_er on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @12:30PM (#23771461)
I suspect this is intentional. What is contained in the article doesn't age out.

As a counter-point, the best article on salary negotiation _ever written_ [0] has the timestamp in the URL, which undoubtedly dissuades people from reading, given that it was written eight years ago.

If a potential reader avoids the article because of it's age, they're poorer for it.

IMO the author is doing the world a favor by not time-stamping the article.

[0] https://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/

Re:How Developers Stop Learning: Rise of the Expert Beginner... by knorker on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @01:00PM (#23771791)
> I suspect this is intentional. What is contained in the article doesn't age out.

Then why does it have a day and month?

Re:How Developers Stop Learning: Rise of the Expert Beginner... by un_ess on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @05:27AM (#23768289)
https://web.archive.org/web/20130222182812/https://daedtech.... can help

Posted on September 30, 2012 by Erik Dietrich

Re:How Developers Stop Learning: Rise of the Expert Beginner... by heyoo on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @07:49AM (#23768960)
Went in here to say exactly that.