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Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by scarface74 on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:33PM (#23733686)
Well let’s see in four years which one is still likely to be getting operating system and security updates.

The original iPhone SE released in 2016 will be supported at least through September 2021.

Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by hesarenu on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:53PM (#23733804)
It will keep on going slow. My ipad is very slow compared to what it was 4 years ago.
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by BuckRogers on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:20PM (#23733969)
Another 4 year original SE user here, which is what I’m swiping this message from. Still going strong, no lag. Decided I’m upgrading before I need to with the 5.4” iPhone 12 this year.

Only issue I had was the battery going to 1% quickly and then lasting half a day, but that seemed to clear itself too with a few full run downs.

Apple absolutely dominates mobile devices from a longevity and usability standpoint. I left Android long ago and never looked back. I’m not all in though, never was convinced by macOS, Windows is just too customizable and useful.

Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by hesarenu on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:26PM (#23734006)
Longevity yes. Usability nope. For me Android is far better usability and ui then iOS. iOS was good once but not now. People are still considering it good for what was before. Plus I feel most guys here are in apple ecosystem and have not experienced anything outside. Mac is still better than windows I would have gone to ubuntu if not for iOS development.
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by molszanski on Sunday July 05, 2020 @03:56PM (#23741427)
I think we should encourage more people to replace batteries every 2-3 years. Their phones are not slow. It is just the battery.
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by molszanski on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:00PM (#23733849)
Writing this from my 4 year old SE. IMO it got much snappier with the last 2 OS upgrades.
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by hesarenu on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:08PM (#23733891)
Ha. When I type I need to see what I have written. The tap response is slow feels like early Android mobiles.
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by molszanski on Sunday July 05, 2020 @03:52PM (#23741384)
I assume it is the battery. It must be replaced.
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by ebg13 on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:00PM (#23733850)
When was the last time you replaced the battery?
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by hesarenu on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:12PM (#23733923)
Replacing anything on Apple hardware after warranty is very costly in India. Hopefully it would last. Some have lasted but becomes very slow. I use a air for personal work which now runs slow. Have to endure for iOS work. Otherwise I foot bill to company.
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by ebg13 on Saturday July 04, 2020 @03:04PM (#23734214)
All rechargeable batteries wear out over time as they are used and recharged. And when batteries wear out, they can't provide the same voltage as before. And when they can't provide the same voltage, the electronics must either slow down or stop working entirely. Replacing batteries isn't necessarily hard to do either (you do have to be careful). You can find highly detailed descriptions of how to do it yourself if there isn't anyone in your area who can provide the service cheaply.
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by hesarenu on Saturday July 04, 2020 @11:59PM (#23736499)
Battery is still good though, I don't use it much but after days it still has enough power. In terms of battery iOS is very good.
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by speedgoose on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:37PM (#23733709)
Will it also run slower and slower until you know that you can pay Apple to replace its battery, or buy a new one?
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by cillian64 on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:51PM (#23733794)
You can disable the performance reduction and deal with the random shutdowns, if you'd prefer.
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by molszanski on Sunday July 05, 2020 @04:00PM (#23741451)
It doesn’t really help. Dead battery will discharge and heat up quickly thermal throttling the cpu. Overall, batteries simply must be replaced in all phones.

Friends don’t let friends throw away phones. Replace the battery.

Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by speedgoose on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:55PM (#23734167)
It doesn't sound better.
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by scarface74 on Saturday July 04, 2020 @03:45PM (#23734447)
I never said that Apple had access to magical battery technology that didn’t lose it ability to charge
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by jeffbee on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:46PM (#23733760)
You can just stick with Android which will randomly shut off instead. I'm sure Apple isn't worried about losing the business of irrational cranks.

Another fun feature of Android is you can just wait for Google to ship that one last major release that makes the phone an unusable slideshow, the way they did to the Nexus 5X.

Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by dylan604 on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:28PM (#23734019)
If your battery is degrading and you choose not to have it replaced, probably.
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by ibero on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:42PM (#23733740)
nope!
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by myopenid2 on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:45PM (#23733756)
Realistically nobody still uses the original iPhone SE now.

You can run Windows 10 on a Centrino laptop from 2010 but you're not gonna have a good time.

Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by jeffbee on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:52PM (#23733797)
According to various iOS app stats, the 1st generation iPhone SE is about 3-5% of the fleet, making it roughly as popular as the iPhone 11.

https://david-smith.org/iosversionstats/

Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by reaperducer on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:50PM (#23733783)
Realistically nobody still uses the original iPhone SE now.

Why not? My old boss was rocking an iPhone 6 as recently as January, and that came out two years earlier — in 2014.

While it's not my daily driver, I have a launch day iPhone 5 that I use at least once a week. It's from 2012.

You can run Windows 10 on a Centrino laptop from 2010 but you're not gonna have a good time.

The iPhone SE was launched in 2016, not 2010.

Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by wincy on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:59PM (#23733842)
I’m still using my iPhone 6 Plus, replaced the battery earlier this year and the only annoying thing is I can’t copy any paste from one website to another, instead I need to copy to notes because the pages will reload (due to 1GB of RAM I’m guessing)
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by rock_artist on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:20PM (#23733974)
Another 2016 SE user. Only reason I’ve got SE2020 which haven’t arrived yet is storage and me seeing worse. (My SE is 16GB)
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by hddherman on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:51PM (#23733791)
Anecdata: I do. Bought it second hand, it's about to receive iOS 14, and I don't have any performance issues, it still works very well.
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by scarface74 on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:56PM (#23733813)
Well actually Windows 10 runs quite well on my circa 2010 Dell Core 2 Duo 2.66Ghz laptop with 8GB of RAM

https://www.cnet.com/reviews/dell-latitude-e6500-review/

Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by myopenid2 on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:34PM (#23734050)
That's a 3000$+ laptop at the time, makes me miss the portability of laptops.

But can you do anything productive on that thing now? How is the battery life?

Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by scarface74 on Saturday July 04, 2020 @06:47PM (#23735428)
Of course the battery sucks. But it’s easy to find a new battery if I cared. Also it’s extremely heavy. Before I retired it early this year. It was a computer that sat next to my work computer to do personal things on - Office 365, Chrome, etc.

It was the company laptop until 2012. The company folded and they sold everything really cheaply.

It could transcode one or two 720p streams simultaneously Witt Plex.

Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by gtufano on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:50PM (#23733784)
Why? I used it until a month ago, and my son still uses it. Battery changed (29€) and it's still a good phone (camera is a bit dated, but for the rest it can definitely be used). I know many people still using it (for the format).
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by jeromenerf on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:10PM (#23733905)
I use the smallest iPhone and the biggest iPad, just because I feel they are the best form factors for my needs. A friend of mine would love to be able to use only an iPad mini, if only he could send and receive phone calls.

I don’t upgrade because there is nothing wrong with these devices. And they have a jack :)

Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by TomVDB on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:45PM (#23734108)
In reality, you’d be very wrong.

My wife is not the only one who’s holding on to hers “until Apple releases another one with the same form factor”.

(Not that this will happen anytime soon, if ever...)

Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by kawsper on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:52PM (#23733800)
I use mine every day.
Re:Apple iPhone SE 2020 Camera review by wlesieutre on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:40PM (#23734075)
Original SE user checking in