Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by TomMarius on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:04AM
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$100k gives you a really nice lifestyle anywhere in Europe.
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Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by bryanrasmussen on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:18AM
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Before or after taxes?
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by cosmodisk on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:39AM
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$100K before taxes would leave about half of it in most countries in Europe.
Just for the context,that's what I could afford back home in the capital: https://m.aruodas.lt/namu-nuoma-vilniuje-antakalnyje-bistryc...
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by thibaut_barrere on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:23AM
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After taxes even (source: I work from a rural part of France. Some years I've earned less, most years a lot more).
So then how much is $100k before taxes?
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by imhoguy on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @05:40PM
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You can't compare US taxes to EU taxes. Paying these (taxes and social contibutions) you also get something in exchange: free public medical care, free education, state pension, various safety nets. Although quality and amount depends on country.
after taxes
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by bryanrasmussen on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:44AM
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In Denmark after taxes you would probably have about 329,000+ dkk, which yes, that is a pretty good half a middle class couple. So you can take care of half a family on that reasonably, not astoundingly great, but quite reasonable.
on edit: actually looking at wages in Denmark I see I am somehow doing a lot better than I thought, which is pretty much amazing to me considering how badly I thought I was doing. Since I am making about that amount after taxes. hmm.
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by kungtotte on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @12:20PM
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Eh, I live in Sweden and I make around that much before taxes and me and my wife could manage with just my paycheck if we really had to. That's with a mortgage on a house, two cars, and a four year old kid.
I doubt the cost of living in Denmark is that much higher than Sweden, so I'd say you're living beyond your means if you can't make it work on 329K DKK after tax...
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by Shalle135 on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @12:59PM
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Have you been to copenhagen? If u’d head out to eat you won’t find anything for less than 500 SEK/pp unless u want fast food. Drinks are cheap though :)
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by kungtotte on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @01:13PM
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No, I've never been to Denmark at all. That sounds really expensive. Not even Stockholm is that expensive (I live 60 KM south of Stockholm).
If you go out to eat there at a normal place, it'll be more like 300-400 SEK (~280 DKK) per person including 1-2 alcoholic beverages.
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by cosmodisk on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @12:27PM
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Denmark is more expensive but ultimately it'd depend on the area and so on.
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by VBprogrammer on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:05AM
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Except major cities like London, Paris, Dublin where it is somewhere around 'table stakes'.
You must be kidding. $100k a year is more than enough to not think about money (for one person) in all European cities, including London. Except if you suck at personal finance and spend all your money for unnecessary things.
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by buzzy_hacker on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:21AM
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So is it enough to not think about it or not enough so that you must think about it to not spend unnecessarily
It's enough that you don't have to worry about your ability to save money. It doesn't mean you never have to think about money at all.
When I moved to London I was surprised how low salaries were, even after factoring in social services like the NHS. 100K USD (80,000GBP) is a very good salary there.
If you have more than a single child of school age, £90k in London is not that much. Two kids at a private school in Northern England will run you £30k, I imagine in London it will be a tad more.
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by petercooper on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @12:13PM
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Sure, you wouldn't send them to private school on that income. But it's far from a necessity; <10% of kids are privately educated.
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by VBprogrammer on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:44AM
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Never mind private schools, housing costs go through the roof if you want them to have their own room or, god forbid, a garden. Not to mention nursery fees if you both need to work to cover the mortgage and bills.
I explitliy mentioned: for one person. Of course, if you want to raise a family with private schols and a big house in the middle of London, that won't work. But let's not twist my words here.
> I explitliy mentioned: for one person.
1950 called, they want their mononuclear family stereotypes back.
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by maccard on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:16AM
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I've lived and worked in two of those cities (and one other almost as expensive european city) for much less than $100k/year. It's a pretty comfortable lifestyle from about $50k upwards.
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by VBprogrammer on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:30AM
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Sure, if you are happy living like a student. If you want to own a place in a reasonable part of town? If you want to be able to have a child? If you don't want to have to rely on two incomes to pay the mortgage? I didn't say it wasn't possible to live on that, only that that kind of salary was table stakes in those cities i.e. it's adequate but hardly living like a king.
Personally I can think of a plenty of other places I'd rather live in where you could truly live well on that kind of money.
Source: I live in the first of those on a similar salary.
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by maccard on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @12:24PM
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There's a world of a difference between living like a student and owning property in a reasonable part of Dublin/London. a €45,000 salary (which is roughly $50k) is definitely a comfortable, non student lifestyle. It's not going to buy you a decent house in Dublin, but it's a comfortable lifestyle, and more than adequate.
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by labelbias on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @02:47PM
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€45,000 does sound a bit low. I lived on €40,000 (after taxes, rent was only 8-10% of the yearly income) in Croatia and lived like a king (travelling, restaurants, buying stuff without worrying about the price, massive amounts of good quality food).
Moving to any other major European city would require me to at least double the income to maintain my standards.
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by dbancajas on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:38AM
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can you share what are the taxes for 100K/year? And then the basic costs like housing and groceries? what about vacations?
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by maccard on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @12:28PM
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https://www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php - take home on $100k in England is about £55,000 ($68k) and london living costs are https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/London.
https://ie.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php Says take home on $100k in ireland is ballpark €55,000 ($62k), and living costs are here - https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Dublin -
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by cosmodisk on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:50AM
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$100K before taxes is decent salary in London. It's not a lot a lot but that's what a senior developer would make in most companies (excluding financial sector+ some extremely funded shops). Would you stop worrying about money? No,of course not.But you could afford to live in decent area,drive normal car,have some nice holidays in pretty places + put some aside for rainy day.Of course,this is London,so no matter what kind of money you make, there's always someone making x10 times that. But isn't that's the case anywhere?
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by bcrosby95 on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:58AM
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Does this include having a family?
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by cosmodisk on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @12:42PM
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Doable but it won't be something amazing.
$100K would translate to about £4600/monthly (after tax).
Housing: £2000-2500(2-3 bed, decent area)
Food: £600-800(normal food)
Transport: £500-£700(public transport for both +1 car/)
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by sweeneyrod on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:53AM
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£80k income puts you in the top 2% of the UK. Something that 98% of people (lower in London but not vastly lower) manage without can hardly be called "table stakes".
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by cambalache on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @02:38PM
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Yes HN is weird like that. Every time salaries are discussed people jump out with comments like : " 100k yearly after tax? That would merely serve you to live in a rented room and eating just ramen every-day".Then you go check and that kind of income is like top 3% , so either they are bullshitting or capitalist societies are in a dramatic state.
Re:I Just Hit $100k/year On GitHub Sponsors
by non-entity on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @02:58PM
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> Yes HN is weird like that. Every time salaries are discussed people jump out with comments like : " 100k yearly after tax? That would merely serve you to live in a rented room and eating just ramen every-day"
This one isnt really HN alone. Mostly just extremely privileged developers without much perspective.