Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using In-App Purchases

Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by hellofunk on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @01:59AM (#23548261)

Interesting that this rejection came out in the same week, maybe the same day, as the EU opened its anti-trust investigations into the company. Obviously there’s some smoke somewhere. I say this as someone who has exclusively used Apple for over one decade. I am very very bothered by this monopolistic evolution of the company.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by SCdF on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @02:19AM (#23548362)

> exclusively used Apple for over one decade ... monopolistic evolution of the company.

Apple have been pulling this kind of thing for the entire lifetime of iOS at least, which is now at ~15 years. So it's less of an evolution and more of a constant.

Nothing has changed, nothing will change. Apple will make arbitrary and unfair rules that suit it, and people will complain but ultimately stick with Apple, and the cycle will repeat.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by JustinVx on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @03:20AM (#23548727)

The only way it can change is if the EU forces Apple to do so.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by hellofunk on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @02:35AM (#23548446)

It has definitely been gradually getting worse. There’s no question about that. Maybe some tendencies have always been there, but they’re being manifested at a much more aggressive rate in very recent years.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by SCdF on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @03:38AM (#23548849)

So this exact rule, that to charge money for your app or from your app you must give Apple a cut, has been there since 2011. This is not new, and apps getting caught in this seem to bubble up every few months.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by vl on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @03:03AM (#23548604)

While I don’t care about evolution of the company, I’m really pissed that I can’t buy Kindle book on a $1000 dollar device I’ve paid for.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by pas on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @04:16AM (#23549060)

I know almost nothing about Kindles, but can't you log in to amazon.com in Safari and buy that way?

Also, buying a Kindle seems like a surefire way to be vendor locked-in, because Amazon is so big, it can afford to not care about anything.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by vl on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @01:44PM (#23554325)

This is exactly what I have to do, but why am I forced to?

While Kindle is locked in, it seems to be a love child of Amazon and works extremely well. The difference between Kindle and iPhone is that Kindle is a single-purpose device, and iPhone is a general computing platform.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by pas on Thursday June 18, 2020 @03:49AM (#23560784)

Apple says it's an exclusive experience, which is obviously sold to absolutely anyone who can cough up the dough.

(Snark aside, the Apple is rightfully famous for their tight integration, high-quality user experience, and that basically requires a walled garden. And it's easy to find edge cases.)

And you're forced to because they are not a charity and because they can get away with it. (Both in a legal and market forces aspect.)

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by codecamper on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @03:08AM (#23548643)

You are a fashion victim to pay 1000 bucks for an Apple phone.

For 200-400 bucks you could have a great Android phone.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by karlshea on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @03:25AM (#23548769)

The problem with a $200-400 Android phone is that it runs Android. I don’t want to use Android, so it looks like that won’t work for me?

Not sure where fashion enters into it?

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by em-bee on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @04:02AM (#23548986)

why don't you want to use android?

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by karlshea on Sunday June 21, 2020 @02:20AM (#23590258)

I don’t like it as much as iOS. The interface paradigms it uses I don’t enjoy. It’s a little too Linux on the Desktop for me.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by baq on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @03:23AM (#23548758)

the problem is this is simply not true.

i've been using android phones for the better part of the decade. last year (2019) i've inherited an iphone 6s and the reason i've upgraded this year (to an inherited 8) is that i managed to crack the screen. show me an android phone that has 5 years of support.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by 9HZZRfNlpR on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @04:09AM (#23549020)

I have always bought cheap androids and power is never a problem, js heavy sites die under flagship phones I've owned too. You most certainly don't have to pay 1000 for a phone, it's insane amount of money for a device.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by ponker on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @03:20AM (#23548728)

... that gets security updates for 2 years.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by kbenson on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @01:03PM (#23553784)

You can probably buy 3 different androids over for the same cost and have support for the same period. Hmm.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by hellofunk on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @03:36AM (#23548833)

An iPhone's performance will completely smoke any cheap Android phone, and iPhone performance is often better than some new laptops [0]!

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23539845

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by gman83 on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @04:34AM (#23549178)

I've got a three year old OnePlus 5 and I've yet to encounter a single app that has been slow, so I'm not sure what value a faster phone would have for me. The only reason I'm considering upgrading is to have a better camera.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by hellofunk on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @05:14AM (#23549395)

One overlooked consequence of a faster chip is less strain on a battery and thus longer battery life. While it may not necessarily affect the perceived speed of apps, it has this significant benefit to the user.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by searchableguy on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @04:20AM (#23549092)

Real life performance and experience differs a lot. A cpu is part of the reason for speed but so are many other factors. It depends on your use case too.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by skygazer on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @04:59AM (#23549316)

That actually sounds, verbatim, like what Macintosh users used to say to PC folk back when they were on 68000 or PPC.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by doe88 on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @02:34AM (#23548436)

> Interesting that this rejection came out in the same week, maybe the same day, as the EU opened its anti-trust investigations into the company.

Day of reckoning is coming. Monopolistic per se or not I think it's their greed and hubris that will be their downfall (on the matter).

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by ponker on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @03:19AM (#23548721)

I am not going to quit using Apple but I would fully support heavy regulations against it. These would obviously come from the EU as US regulators are toothless.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by tarsinge on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @03:37AM (#23548838)

I don't really understand the monopoly accusation. The EU investigation is related to Apple Pay, iOS market share is less than 30% there.

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Re:Apple’s Rejection of Hey from the App Store for Not Using... by sleepyhead on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @03:43AM (#23548881)

There are two EU investigations. One for Apple Pay (NFC) and the other is about Apple Store policies.

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