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Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by bradleyjg on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @08:02PM (#23483629)
Mergers and acquisitions rarely work out for the entities as such. To understand why they nonetheless continue to happen so often it’s necessary to peer beyond the corporate veil and look at the incentives of the individual players.
Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by echelon on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @09:09PM (#23484190)
> Mergers and acquisitions rarely work out

Instagram

DoubleClick

NeXT

Here are some businesses off the top of my head that are thriving because of their acquisitions.

Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by tonyedgecombe on Thursday June 11, 2020 @02:52AM (#23485885)
From https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-mergers-fail/

One KPMG study found that 83 percent of these deals hadn't boosted shareholder returns, while a separate study by A.T. Kearney concluded that total returns on M&A were negative.

Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by JAlexoid on Thursday June 11, 2020 @05:55AM (#23487007)
There's a presumption that companies engaged in M&A would have been executing as well as historically.

Basically - it's an unscientific opinion

Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by tonyedgecombe on Thursday June 11, 2020 @06:22AM (#23487208)
Well that could go either way couldn't it.
Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by qntmfred on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @09:17PM (#23484242)
The key word being rarely
Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by echelon on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @09:36PM (#23484367)
Everywhere I've worked, 75% or more of acquisitions or acquihires went extremely well and resulted in strategic benefit and/or gain of great talent. There are only a couple of instances that stand out as being a bad fit, and one of those companies later got sold to another player in the same space for a profit. So it's really never been a bad use of capital from my perspective.
Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by anticsapp on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @09:51PM (#23484460)
Are you sure it isn't 76% with all that hard cold data you're using?
Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by echelon on Thursday June 11, 2020 @01:44AM (#23485544)
My current office was an acquisition. Two cohorts of my colleagues are from acquisitions. One of our newer major revenue streams. Acquisition.

Unrelated thing not core to the business that we sold. Acquisition we spun off at a profit.

It's not 75% exactly, but this isn't even napkin math. Just top of mind. I feel as though you're belittling my experience and my person. Why? And also, please don't.

I've told you that from my direct experience, most acquisitions I've been witness to have been well thought out, calculated moves. It turns out we're doing a good job.

Please don't be so hostile.

Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by viscanti on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @10:11PM (#23484562)
76% is "75% or more". So it's covered.
Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by askafriend on Thursday June 11, 2020 @03:49AM (#23486219)
A lot of big company initiatives are acquisitions in non-obvious ways. For example even Google Maps started off as an acquisition of Keyhole Corp - a small startup focused on mapping technology.

Android was an acquisition.

YouTube was an acquisition.

Google Docs was an acquisition.

Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by exolymph on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @09:13PM (#23484212)
Survivorship bias.
Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by granzymes on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @09:02PM (#23484130)
>Mergers and acquisitions rarely work out for the entities as such.

Could you provide a source for that?

Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by twunde on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @11:22PM (#23484915)
An oft-cited HBR article, https://hbr.org/2016/06/ma-the-one-thing-you-need-to-get-rig..., states that 70-90% of acquisitions are considered failures.
Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by Closi on Thursday June 11, 2020 @02:12AM (#23485677)
One of the things that article overlooks though is that almost all multinational companies wouldn’t be what they are today without acquisition and inorganic growth.

Even that article says it: if Google avoided acquisitions they wouldn’t have Android and YouTube. Disney wouldn’t have Pixar and Fox. The biggest companies in the world would be different - and for the surviving multinationals often their acquisitions defined their current business.

Some of this is successful, some of this is a failure, but it’s a game that a lot of companies needed to play to achieve their current market position.

In fact, in some markets not touching M&A means not growing your core business (eg some retailers), and some big businesses may not exist anymore if they didn’t do the acquisitions they did.

Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by megablast on Thursday June 11, 2020 @03:01AM (#23485941)
How different would Disney be without Pixar? Not different at all. And fox? Too early to tell.
Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by Closi on Friday June 12, 2020 @12:16PM (#23500691)
As a massive Disney fan, the parks would be very different! Almost all new rides in the parks are based on Pixar / Marvel / Fox properties.

Firstly Pixar - The Pixar brand pretty much turned around the failing 'California Adventure' after the 'Pixar Pier' conversion. Toy Story alone has more rides than any other movie with Midway Mania, Slinky Dog Dash, RC Racer, Toy Soldiers Parachutes and Slinky Dog Zig-Zag Spin. The French pavilion in Epcot is getting Remy’s Ratatouille Adventure (which is already in Paris). There would be no crush coaster, no Radiator Springs Racers...

Disney probably wouldn't have entire areas of their park dedicated to Pandora and Star Wars, both of which were after the aquisitions of Fox (Avatar) and Lucasfilm (Star wars). Both Florida and California have Guardians of the Galaxy rides enabled by the acquisition of Marvel, and are planning more Marvel based attractions.

Bob Iger realised that just licencing these properties wasn't good enough - only ownership of the brand can protect Disney's long term interests ('What if pixar decides just to stop making Toy Story? Or refuses to licence their next hot property? Or gets acquired by our competitor?').

Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by hedora on Thursday June 11, 2020 @03:13AM (#23486021)
Name one decent Disney animated movie that was released after Pixar was founded (excluding Pixar films post-acquisition).

There aren’t many because most of Disney’s talent left around when Pixar was founded. Without movies to continuously hook new kids, their entire empire is a house of cards.

Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by laddershoe on Thursday June 11, 2020 @10:57AM (#23489584)
Pixar was founded in 1986. They started releasing theatrical films with Toy Story in 1995. Are you really saying there hasn't been a single good Disney animated movie in the past 25 years? What's the basis for that statement?

The history of the two studios is way more involved than what you're suggesting, and talent moves around between studios quite a lot. And 25 years is a long time; there have been entire generations of talent that have risen up since then, and trust me, they're not all at Pixar.

Source: I worked at Disney Animation for nearly a decade (and closely with Pixar during that time). I'm certainly not unbiased but probably way more informed.

Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by michaelt on Thursday June 11, 2020 @05:18AM (#23486776)
I don't know if this supposed to be an argument that acquisitions are good, or that they're bad?
Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by JAlexoid on Thursday June 11, 2020 @06:00AM (#23487045)
The argument is that HBR's article is just speculation, nothing more.

Some mergers have literally saved companies, some have ruined them, some are considered 'unsuccessful' for esoteric reasons and others successful for purely numeric ones.

Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by Tomte on Thursday June 11, 2020 @08:30AM (#23488084)
Moana, obviously.

96% on RottenTomatoes, critically acclaimed, 12th-most profitable release of 2016.

Re:Just Eat Takeaway to acquire Grubhub for $7.3B by foobiekr on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @09:03PM (#23484138)
this is the correct answer imho