What happened to George Floyd has happened to white people too. Tony Timpa was one such victim.[0] Another one was Joseph Hutcheson.[1] Hopefully there can finally be change in the police, so that it doesn't happen again to anyone.

[0] https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2019/07/31/yo...

[1] https://mashable.com/2015/08/31/dallas-man-dies-police

And since the parent is dead, I will add what I was adding there:

Personally, I've claimed it has more to do with socio-economic status. So, while there are plenty of stories about well off !white guy being hassled in his own neighborhood, it happens a lot less to people wearing business attire. OTOH, poor white people get hassled at 2AM too. I had white friends in HS who were routinely stopped and searched for drugs by the police simply because they were driving back from their 2AM fast food jobs in their beater cars while cutting through the nice neighborhoods.

So, the police definitely judge you and if you come across as a well off member of society your much more likely to be treated well. I've gotten pulled over for a fair number of traffic stops in the past ~20 years. Overwhelmingly I've never gotten a ticket driving a higher end vehicle with the wife/kids present. OTOH, driving the old clunker by myself, 100% hit rate.

This. I lived in a small city in Montana where 95% of the population was white. When there are no minorities police will find someone else to target, and usually it's the poor.

Justine Damound is another one that happened right in Minneapolis recently.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond

This statement seems unfair. It is on par with people pointing out that white people did not start to riot after their guy was killed. It does not help the conversation at all. It is unnecessary race baiting.

Very true.

Here's something I found interesting.

I'm not sure how it got calculated because police kill around 1,000 people a year in the US and about 300 black people a year in the US.

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

According to this the chance of black male being killed by police (over lifetime?) is 1 in 1000. The chance of a white male being killed is 1 in 2000. The chance of a female being killed is 1 in 33000.

I'm not sure what to say here. Are more men getting killed because men behave more violently (well probably)? Or are more men getting killed because of some bias?

Clearly theres a bias against men, even if they’re not violent they’re perceived as more dangerous because they’re potentially stronger. Men are also more likely to be part of a gang, women, not so much. Now add the race to the mix and black and hispanic men are very high on their radar. We’ve been hearing of racial profiling complaints for a while, for at least 15-20, it is a true thing.

Look at the question case by case, instead of statistically. You can see that almost all are killed as a result of their own violent behavior towards police or others.

It appears US police kills more people than police in Russia, or is roughly on par. Most years police in UK kills zero. Do you want to compete with authoritarian states in number of deaths caused by police?

There were ten cases of unarmed black Americans killed by police in 2019. Which of those killings do you disagree with?

Do you understand that US police kills people at a rate thats totally unseen outside of dictatorships and bana republics? Not just black people - white people, asians, there is no demographic who's deathrate is acceptable for a developed nation.

Why is that? Either us police is out control, or you have some sort of mass-criminal-psycosis going on over there, and it stops at the canadian border.

You want to go case by case? Explain how can police kill a woman sleeping in her house. To me this is unbelievable. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna12...

Yes, I want you to go case by case, and understand what most of them are like, instead of picking just those that are examples of bad policing.

> Either us police is out control, or you have some sort of mass-criminal-psycosis going on over there,

Why not both? We do have police problems. We also have mass criminal psychosis. (Just look at the news recently...)

> Which of those killings do you disagree with?

Wouldn't it be nice if there were an independent review board to look over mandatory body cam footage from an incident so we don't have to have speculative internet debates over what happened? And fair legal recourse for victims of officers who break the law so that people don't feel the need to seek out justice on their own?

> I'm not sure what to say here. Are more men getting killed because men behave more violently (well probably)? Or are more men getting killed because of some bias?

If you're taking feedback here mine would be to avoid drawing such enormous conclusion from such a minimal, uncontextualized set of data.

Maybe the major point they’re conveying is that in contrast to the George Floyd murder which could be construed to show isolated issues with cops, it’s unavoidable to paint with a broad brush in the Buffalo incident?

But still, feel free to assume their race and prejudices because you’re morally superior or whatever.